Marlin XT-22TR possible problem

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Hey guys,

I was looking for some insight on a new gun I bought today, after lots of looking around I decided I needed a bolt action 22, wasn't quite ready to drop $500+ on a CZ and so I decided on a Marlin XT-22TR, went tube fed to try something new.


I cycled a few rounds through the action today just to see how smooth everything was and ran into a possible issue, I was using Winchester Copper Plated Hollow points and when cycling one it seemed to stick in the barrel and would not extract, is this a common problem with Marlins ? or is it just the quality of ammunition I was using to cycle. I found there were a few burrs on the bullet, but I wanted to get some expert opinions, should I be concerned that this point ?
 
I don't know about your problem, but where did you get the XT, and are there any left in stock? :D I have been waiting for mine for months now, and I would buy another if it meant I could get my hands one one now.
 
uberkermit said:
I don't know about your problem, but where did you get the XT, and are there any left in stock? :D I have been waiting for mine for months now, and I would buy another if it meant I could get my hands one one now.
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Picked it up at Triggers in Bows, great store..they have mag fed ones no more TR's

Sail outdoors has a few standard XT22's as well.

Anyone have any insight on my issue, all help is greatly appreciated.
 
I do know that since Remington bought Marlin, and moved the manufacturing operation, they have had some real quality control issues. Is the chamber rough?
 
I wouldn't be concerned until it happened a lot with all types of ammo. Various batches of ammunition have different defect rates and sometimes it's pretty bad. Most notably with primers not igniting.
 
I'd say it just doesn't like that ammo.
And I wouldn't worry about the QC issue. The positive reviews of the XT series rifles outnumber the negative about 100-1.
But as always, the happy people just go and shoot...the few with problems like to sit on the forums for hours complaining.
Happy shooting with your XT.
 
uberkermit said:
I don't know about your problem, but where did you get the XT, and are there any left in stock? :D I have been waiting for mine for months now, and I would buy another if it meant I could get my hands one one now.
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I just bought one from Le Baron in Markham. They had a 20% off sale. I bought an XT 22r, just the basic model. Out the door for $165 after tax. I believe they had a couple left.
 
If you had a problem extracting after the bullets had been fired, then I'd be concerned.

Bullets sticking in the chamber when cycling loaded rounds through without shooting them off means your bullets are engaging the rifling, and the rifling holds the bullet stronger than the extractor. Just means the driving band on those bullets are further forward or wider than on others.
 
That problem happens all the time when I try to feed Winchesters through my Model 60... Trying to pull a stuck case out of a semi is a bigger pain in the arse.

Feed it something else, all you need to do.
 
mikeystew said:
If you had a problem extracting after the bullets had been fired, then I'd be concerned.

Bullets sticking in the chamber when cycling loaded rounds through without shooting them off means your bullets are engaging the rifling, and the rifling holds the bullet stronger than the extractor. Just means the driving band on those bullets are further forward or wider than on others.
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After taking it to the range I found that the casings were not extracting, so I would have to slide the waiting bullet out of the tube then slide out the casing.

This was happening at times upwards of 50% of the time. I was using Winchester Copper Plated Hallow Points (Bulk) and CCI Blazer (Bulk)

I had issues with both types it was all I had on hand, my friend has some CCI Blazers packed in 50rd boxes and they all seemed to work but I only tried about 8-10 of them because it was his last box.

I load the round and before firing I extract just before the point of ejecting and whenever I extract it appear the bolt is still holding the rim but after I fire no dice, can someone give me some direction as to what I could to to fix this problem ?
 
Sounds like you need to first check the rim of the chamber for burrs. You can do that with a Q-tip, the cotton strands will snag on a burr. If you find one just remove it carefully with a round file or a needle file.

If there is no burr, it either need the chamber polished/cleaned really well. I like to polish my semi .22 chambers with a .17 cleaning brush mounted to an old cutoff cleaning rod, wrapped in cleaning patches, coated in fine lapping compound, and chucked in a drill. Insert coated patch/brush into chamber and turn the drill on for a minute or so, but be very careful not to go too deep or you will polish the rifling. I usually just try to do the first 2/3rds of the chamber.

The other thing to check is the extractor on th bolt. When you have the bolt removed insert an empty case and see how well it holds onto it. It should grab with very positive resistance. If the chamber is polished, burr free, and the extractors grab tight and you still have extraction problems, then it could be the extractor cut out beside the chamber is not cut deep enough. Again this can be fixed with a file.
 
mikeystew said:
Sounds like you need to first check the rim of the chamber for burrs. You can do that with a Q-tip, the cotton strands will snag on a burr. If you find one just remove it carefully with a round file or a needle file.

If there is no burr, it either need the chamber polished/cleaned really well. I like to polish my semi .22 chambers with a .17 cleaning brush mounted to an old cutoff cleaning rod, wrapped in cleaning patches, coated in fine lapping compound, and chucked in a drill. Insert coated patch/brush into chamber and turn the drill on for a minute or so, but be very careful not to go too deep or you will polish the rifling. I usually just try to do the first 2/3rds of the chamber.

The other thing to check is the extractor on th bolt. When you have the bolt removed insert an empty case and see how well it holds onto it. It should grab with very positive resistance. If the chamber is polished, burr free, and the extractors grab tight and you still have extraction problems, then it could be the extractor cut out beside the chamber is not cut deep enough. Again this can be fixed with a file.
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So far I have checked for burrs and found none, the extractor arm seems strong as well, another thing I am concerned about is the Bolt itself, I looked that the Bolt it found the numbers were almost scratched off and new very poor looking numbers were grinded into it.."718" it looks like I will post pictures when I am home..this was a NIB gun and I didn't check the bolt as I trust the guys at Triggers and Bows.

Should I be concerned about this on the bolt ?
 
That's interesting. Id try polishing the chamber to see if that makes a difference, otherwise it could just be that your bolt is not headspaced properly and it doesn't close close enough to the breech for the extractor to grab hold. But that is probably the least likely situation. If after you've tried all you can do it still doesn't extract properly, take it to a smith or take it back to the store.
 
Here is the picture

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I mean c'mon this is a new gun
 
Don't do a thing to a "new" rifle!

I love waking up 60-100 year old .22's, and use many of the suggestions (and a few other tricks too). If this is a "new" rifle, bring it on back, and explain the issues..."new" rifles shouldn't behave this way. I've not tried an XT, but in general n'er met a Marlin I didn't like.

If you tinker with it yourself, you'll exclude the chance of the vendor doing anything about it. Cleaning is one thing, repairing is a very different thing.
If you have:
-Cleaned it
-Inspected the extractor (good hook, tight) and bolt in general
-Tried a few different ammo (live extracts, and fired extracts), and looked close at spent brass
-WORKED the bolt! I have found working actions "gingerly" won't help. Jack that sucka!

In the meantime, be VERY careful not to ding it up either...


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Was it "stiff" the first time you cycled it? Those scratches could have been something "in" the action...look inside the receiver for scratches too...

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Naw..looks like engraving.
 
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