Marstar scopes
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canucklehead
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It has been discussed here before, and I don't know if anyone has needed to take them up on their warranty yet. I would buy one, but the optic snobs say 'no chance'. :wink:
I have the fixed 6 power AR optic (from Marstar, but not Marstar 'branded'), and it works great for me. The range doesn't really abuse it though, but I think it's great for the price.
It has been discussed here before, and I don't know if anyone has needed to take them up on their warranty yet. I would buy one, but the optic snobs say 'no chance'. :wink:
I have the fixed 6 power AR optic (from Marstar, but not Marstar 'branded'), and it works great for me. The range doesn't really abuse it though, but I think it's great for the price.
I haven't had any luck with any "made in china" optics, scopes, spotting scopes, bino's, no matter who's name was on it, none of them were very good. The chinese just don't make good optics. I've had better luck with the Bushnell Banner and Trophy line for cheaper scopes, which are pretty much the same price and made in Korea. High magnification cheap scopes rarely have useable high magnification, ie. the 6-24x42 Tasco Target/Varmint I had was only useable up to about 15x, any higher and eye relief and focus was brutal.
Optics purchases are pretty much black and white, you get what you pay for.
Optics purchases are pretty much black and white, you get what you pay for.
death-junky
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Moose Jaw SK
I realy like em i got one on my M-305 and it servived a long wet and harsh cariboo hunt and i bagged my first boo with it 
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it is clear and can stand recoil.
i havent had a problem with it yet.
talk to ya all later
Riley
.it is clear and can stand recoil.
i havent had a problem with it yet.
talk to ya all later
Riley
Marstar Scopes FAQ
Q: Does 'cheaper price' mean 'cheaper quality'?
A: No. These are made in the same factory as several 'big name' optics.
Q: Why the lower price, then?
A: We buy direct from the OEM manufacturer, import them ourselves, and offer them direct to the end-user. There are no 'middlemen' (each of whom make their money by raising the price slightly: do this three or four times before it reaches the store and it adds up!)
Q: I've heard you claim your scopes are as good as similar models costing two to three times as much. How can that be?
A: In addition to the lack of middlemen, our 'no frills' approach saves even more money. The 'big brands' must factor the cost of tens of thousands of glossy brochures, posters, catalogues, and other promotional materials, their corporate offices, attending dozens of trade shows, commissions for their sales reps, and running expensive ads in gun magazines into the cost of every scope sold. We don't incur any of those costs and pass the savings on to you.
Q: What about build quality versus the 'big brands?'
A: We back every scope with a lifetime warranty. It makes good business sense because this shows how reliable they are: if these were prone to breakage, were full of defects, etc. our mailbox would be full of returned scopes and we'd lose our shirts. Buying a good product to start with saves us money when backing it with a lifetime warranty.
Q:OK. So these are as good as top-drawer Leupold, Steiner, Zeiss, etc.?
A: Anyone who buys a ~$150.00 scope of any kind and expects it to outperform a $1,000.00+ high-end optic is going to be disappointed. If on the other hand you're comparing a ~$100.00-$150.00 Marstar scope to a ~$200.00-$400.00 one you're in the right ballpark.
Hope this helps,
- Peter
Q: Does 'cheaper price' mean 'cheaper quality'?
A: No. These are made in the same factory as several 'big name' optics.
Q: Why the lower price, then?
A: We buy direct from the OEM manufacturer, import them ourselves, and offer them direct to the end-user. There are no 'middlemen' (each of whom make their money by raising the price slightly: do this three or four times before it reaches the store and it adds up!)
Q: I've heard you claim your scopes are as good as similar models costing two to three times as much. How can that be?
A: In addition to the lack of middlemen, our 'no frills' approach saves even more money. The 'big brands' must factor the cost of tens of thousands of glossy brochures, posters, catalogues, and other promotional materials, their corporate offices, attending dozens of trade shows, commissions for their sales reps, and running expensive ads in gun magazines into the cost of every scope sold. We don't incur any of those costs and pass the savings on to you.
Q: What about build quality versus the 'big brands?'
A: We back every scope with a lifetime warranty. It makes good business sense because this shows how reliable they are: if these were prone to breakage, were full of defects, etc. our mailbox would be full of returned scopes and we'd lose our shirts. Buying a good product to start with saves us money when backing it with a lifetime warranty.
Q:OK. So these are as good as top-drawer Leupold, Steiner, Zeiss, etc.?
A: Anyone who buys a ~$150.00 scope of any kind and expects it to outperform a $1,000.00+ high-end optic is going to be disappointed. If on the other hand you're comparing a ~$100.00-$150.00 Marstar scope to a ~$200.00-$400.00 one you're in the right ballpark.
Hope this helps,
- Peter
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Oops: I shouldn't have done that. Now the feds will know my keyboard is 'designed or adapted to discharge multiple posts in rapid succession with a single pressure on the <return> key'
... fortunately we're licenced :twisted:
Oops: I shouldn't have done that. Now the feds will know my keyboard is 'designed or adapted to discharge multiple posts in rapid succession with a single pressure on the <return> key'
... fortunately we're licenced :twisted:
Lifetime warranty sounds pretty good to me when you buy a $150 scope. Too bad when I went to order mine for the hunting season they were sold out :x
I havent heard a bad thing about the MarStar scopes other then then the broad statement that all chinese scopes suck which is not true.
Cheers!!
I havent heard a bad thing about the MarStar scopes other then then the broad statement that all chinese scopes suck which is not true.
Cheers!!
Peter said:
Which "big name" companies, and are they made to the same specs as the big name optics companies?
I can prepare a filet mignon at my restuarant, or a hamburger, but they are both made in the same kitchen, if you get my drift! :wink:
Thanks
Gatehouse said:
I can't specify which brands our OEM source manufactures scopes for due to an agreement with the factory not to 'name names.'
These scopes are manufactured to the same specifications: unlike a restaurant where each meal is made individually, it's more cost effective to use the same optics than it is to disrupt the assembly line.
To use your restaurant analogy, it's fair to say you're getting the double burger combo with cheese and bacon for the price some others charge for their ungarnished single sandwich
- Peter
I have to admit I have used cheap "made in china" scopes in the past (when i was younger) as I was reluctant to spend big $$ on optics. It's sort of an "ignorance is bliss" type of thing with optics, if all you ever use is the cheap stuff, you don't really have anything to compare it to. :wink:
I still have a $50 Bushnell sportsman 3-9x32 that has stood up to heavy recoil, dropping, throwing, kicking, you name it, and it still holds zero. Glass is OK for a few shots but your eye gets sore after 15 minutes of shooting and you need to take a break. A good scope will let you use it as a spotter all day long with no eye fatigue.
Now, to compare a Marstar scope to a Bushnell Elite 3200 or 4200, or Leupold VXI/VXII or Rifleman (your $200-$400 comparision) is just silly, there is no comparision. A fair comparison is other "Big Names" cheap "made in china" line like Tasco World Class or Target/Varmint, and the Bushnell Sportsman, or even some of the Simmons stuff. But then they are the same price (or cheaper) as the marstar stuff, and that wouldn't sell scopes now would it? :wink:
Peter said:Gatehouse said:
I can't specify which brands our OEM source manufactures scopes for due to an agreement with the factory not to 'name names.'
These scopes are manufactured to the same specifications: unlike a restaurant where each meal is made individually, it's more cost effective to use the same optics than it is to disrupt the assembly line.
To use your restaurant analogy, it's fair to say you're getting the double burger combo with cheese and bacon for the price some others charge for their ungarnished single sandwich
- Peter
Okay, that is fair enough.
If the tooliiung etc is the same, then certainly someone here can say "the Marstar scopes look just like XYZ!@# Brand of scopes, so they are probbay related."
Anyone?
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[quote="Gatehouse
Okay, that is fair enough.
If the tooliiung etc is the same, then certainly someone here can say "the Marstar scopes look just like XYZ!@# Brand of scopes, so they are probbay related."
Anyone?[/quote]
Now that would be worth knowing , Heck with that answer I'd beoordering today . I might even get a gun too.
Okay, that is fair enough.
If the tooliiung etc is the same, then certainly someone here can say "the Marstar scopes look just like XYZ!@# Brand of scopes, so they are probbay related."
Anyone?[/quote]
Now that would be worth knowing , Heck with that answer I'd beoordering today . I might even get a gun too.
