Masai Mara anyone heard of them?

Falconflyer said:
Fair enough, but as I've already mentioned, most people will recommend against them just based on the hit and miss history of Turkish guns in general. Go buy one and prove every one wrong if you want.
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I'm not going to put myself on the bleeding edge just to make a point. I'll do my research before making any decision just like I do with most purchases I make.

What I won't do is dismiss them out of hand just because of where they're made.
 
dmcdam said:
I'm not going to put myself on the bleeding edge just to make a point. I'll do my research before making any decision just like I do with most purchases I make.

What I won't do is dismiss them out of hand just because of where they're made.
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And I have a track record of doing the same. I've paid my money and taken my chances with several makes of Turkish guns while others sit around and speculate.
 
I don't know how much a person would be rolling the dice if this is any indication of the wood.

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Falconflyer said:
And I have a track record of doing the same. I've paid my money and taken my chances with several makes of Turkish guns while others sit around and speculate.
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Lol - not speculating but waiting for more info and reviews from the US.

It was -30c here today so I'm in no rush.

Edit - plus these guns still aren't in Canada so can't go get one just yet anyway
 
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dmcdam said:
I get what you're both saying, but there's probably a lot of people out there who refuse to believe there's only 3 companies on the planet who have figured out how to make a good shotgun.
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LOL, that's a pretty funny statement ... There are lots of manufacturers out there that make better guns than the B guns, but there is no point in entering them into the discussion when the discussion is around an entry level shotgun.
 
gunsaholic said:
I remember this opinion by the general public very well. When I was a boy, I remember very well comments made by many many adults about "damn Japanese junk" to the point that even as a child, if I saw "made in Japan" on the bottom of a toy I would think it was likely junk. These opinions were still with the public when I started in a Chrysler dealership in my late teens in the 70's. Japanese vehicles were thought of as junk even though there were a number of them around with 150, 000 miles or more on them. They might not of had a body left but they were still running strong. Same thing is happening today, only in this scenario it is Turkey and guns. Lots of Turkish guns out there from the past that had issues. Also lots of people using them with no issues. Some are made to a higher quality than others depending on the price point the particular retailer wants. Is the gun in question in this thread of the higher quality and reliability? At this point no one knows but it likely shouldn't be written off yet. There are several owners shooting Turkish made double barrels in the $1200.00 to $2000.00 range that are very pleased with them while others wouldn't even give them a thought because of previously formed opinions. Only after reviews come in about guns that have seen actual use will we know. Wouldn't it be something if the gun in question turns out to be as good, or even very close to a B gun in reliability! And we will not know that if no one buys them.
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So are you buying one of the first ones we see here :) so we can find out
I did that with browning golds, super x2 and 3 :)
Come on it's only money
 
3macs1 said:
So are you buying one of the first ones we see here :) so we can find out
I did that with browning golds, super x2 and 3 :)
Come on it's only money
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I maybe would if I needed another semi or whatever type of gun . But I don't need another, in fact it's coming to the point of I should get rid of some, maybe including my Turkish Stevens 555.
 
Beretta687EELL said:
LOL, that's a pretty funny statement ... There are lots of manufacturers out there that make better guns than the B guns, but there is no point in entering them into the discussion when the discussion is around an entry level shotgun.
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Yes, we all know that but thanks for pointing it out.
 
dmcdam said:
The Weatherby's don't seem to get a lot of love, that's true. Yet every review and most threads I read about them seem to have a lot of good to say. Particularly from a value for money standpoint.
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For the value the SA-08 is an awesome gun, you might get a lemon here and there like all companies. Still I believe lot of people handling these guns are biased because it doesn't cost more than a 1000$ or don't know the name or review in the USA where they just stick with the fact it isn't made in usa still the fact remains lot of reviews are biased in my opinion. I've had one for 4-5 years and it is tired but still for someone who'd use it once in a while for the price it has an awesome value and reliability. I am curious about their new element series as well.
 
3macs1 said:
So are you buying one of the first ones we see here :) so we can find out
I did that with browning golds, super x2 and 3 :)
Come on it's only money
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3macs1 I heard your point, please stop poking everyone.
The last 6 pages of your comments aren't useful nor related to the main thread.
Again I heard your point on B guns thank you.
 
Grendeb said:
For the value the SA-08 is an awesome gun, you might get a lemon here and there like all companies. Still I believe lot of people handling these guns are biased because it doesn't cost more than a 1000$ or don't know the name or review in the USA where they just stick with the fact it isn't made in usa still the fact remains lot of reviews are biased in my opinion. I've had one for 4-5 years and it is tired but still for someone who'd use it once in a while for the price it has an awesome value and reliability. I am curious about their new element series as well.
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I haven't heard much bad about the Sa-08 other than the usual speculation from guys who have never had one. Wby actually had more trouble that I'm aware of with the Fausti side by sides that Wby put their name on. Fausti builds cheap guns or fine guns whichever the customer wants to pay for and it appears that Wby wanted the cheap ones.
 
MK2750 said:
I don't know how much a person would be rolling the dice if this is any indication of the wood.

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I purchased one of the first Yildiz Elegant A1's to come into this neck of the woods a number of years ago for around $900 if memory serves and it had wood that would have cost thousands on anything else. Believe me, wood isn't an indication of gun quality. Apart from the triggers the Yildiz wasn't that bad, it just wasn't that good.
 
Grendeb said:
3macs1 I heard your point, please stop poking everyone.
The last 6 pages of your comments aren't useful nor related to the main thread.
Again I heard your point on B guns thank you.
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Who are you to tell anyone what to do here with respect to feedback on shotguns
I have said it at least three times
To each their own
I am not poking you or any one else . Did you not see all of the smiles on my comments to Gunsaholic
Him I respect very much here , especially around shotguns and was joking with HIM. No body else
Perhaps you can comment when it is applicable to you and butt out when it is not
Don't worry I am done now and some day you will see if my comments will prove to be useful or not
I am open to cash bets :)
Cheers
 
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gunsaholic said:
I maybe would if I needed another semi or whatever type of gun . But I don't need another, in fact it's coming to the point of I should get rid of some, maybe including my Turkish Stevens 555.
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I hear you. I too still have too many shotguns as you know and honestly any recoil operated semi doesn't impress me of any make or model
I have one of those 555 also in 28ga and had to change the firing pins in it other than that it goes bang now but it didnot have the issue common in them of both barrels firing the same time at least so far
I guess it is hard for me to give them a fair shake when I was raised with winchester 101's and browning citori in my hand all the time
take care
 
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