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Anyone interested in Charles Masquelier, Liege, who manufactured top grade Belgian shotguns in competition
with the British guns.
I have a 20 ga. Masquelier in very good condition and wonder what it is worth.
Thanks, Gary
 
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Anyone interested in Charles Masquelier, Liege, who manufactured top grade Belgian shotguns in competition
with the British guns.
I have a 20 ga. Masquelier in mint condition and wonder what it is worth.
Thanks, Gary

Going to need pics and a better description because your idea of mint and someone else's may differ greatly. It would have to have barely a mark on it to be mint and that includes the bluing. Is it in original finish? Are the bores pristine with no pitting and no dents in the barrels? I have a Masquelier in 12 gauge. It looks fantastic as well but it has had the barrels refinished and the stock repaired, refinished and checkering recut.
 
Piece of junk,

Let me know if you need someone to relieve you of the burden of looking at a Belgian double. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
 
Masquelier 20 ga.

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Only mark is on the stock left side by the action. Also have some pics of internals.
Gary
 

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Masquelier 20 ga.

I should have answered your questions.
The bores are perfect and bluing as new. The trigger guard bluing is not worn and looks like it has
had very little use. Would like to know the age but can not find any records, serial no. 540xx
Gary.
 
Its a very nice gun, but far from what I would consider mint. The deep scratches/gouges in the stock and slightly buggered up screw heads will have an impact on valuation
 
I see that; Thank you very much, I appreciate your information.
I was told that a stock maker could probably repair the mark above the trigger guard
but I doubt that I will bother. It was bought as a shooter and I have since added a
recoil pad. I was mainly interested in the value of the gun as is.
My thanks again, Gary
 
Masquelier may or may not have been a top Belgian maker, I have no expertise in this area. But, a fundamental principle in gun valuation is "judge each piece on it's own merits, not on the maker's name/reputation". What we see here is a standard field grade double in "good" condition. It was never a high grade piece and it now displays damage in several areas, as has already been pointed out.

Having said that, it is likely a more than adequate field gun. The Greener-style cross bolt and side clips suggest a solid lock up. The double triggers and straight grip also lend themselves to a more than serviceable upland gun. Considering all of the above, if I were in the market for an upland gun, I'd pay between $450-500 for one such as this, assuming the length of pull from the front trigger is at least 14 3/4" (it appears in the images to be fairly short).
 
Yes, it is a field grade gun. The one I have is of higher quality. One thing this gun has going for it is that it is a 20 gauge. But to many of the younger generation that might be looking at a used SxS, the name Masquelier does not ring a bell and you will not find parts on many street corners. Mind you, you won't find parts readily available for likely 85% of the used doubles out there. Never stopped me from buying one, lol. It is a small/tough market in Canada trying to sell many used doubles for a decent price. What you might see on the internet has no bearing for what something might actually sell for here. Regarding the OP's gun, it is in fairly nice condition, not mint. It is also 20 gauge. To the right buyer, it could be worth around $700.00. It is a decent quality gun and one I would take over many of the new lower/budget priced Turkish doubles out there. But who knows how long one might wait to realize $700.00. It all depends on the day and who is looking at the time. One can always come down in price.
 
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The pins on the action have been worked over quite significantly. That makes one wonder what sort of work was done on the action, as well as why those pins had to be pounded back into the action creating disgusting looking craters.

The stock appears to have been shortened significantly affecting the LOP and possibly the resulting POI.

And what sort of surprise would one have when they looked down the barrels with a bore light?

In my opinion, $400 privately. $750 on the shelf in a gun shop consignment.
 
The pins on the action have been worked over quite significantly. That makes one wonder what sort of work was done on the action, as well as why those pins had to be pounded back into the action creating disgusting looking craters.

The stock appears to have been shortened significantly affecting the LOP and possibly the resulting POI.

And what sort of surprise would one have when they looked down the barrels with a bore light?

In my opinion, $400 privately. $750 on the shelf in a gun shop consignment.

While they have been messed with a bit, the "craters" are the classic way Liege (Belgian) gunmakers finished the pins. They preferred to use pins rather than screws and I have had a number of very nice Belgians with pins and "craters".
 
And I think it is the photo that makes the stock look short. It sure doesn't look short to me in the first photo showing the whole gun but a measurement from the front trigger to the buttplate would verify.
 
The stock appears to have been shortened significantly affecting the LOP and possibly the resulting POI.

And what sort of surprise would one have when they looked down the barrels with a bore light?
maybe you missed the part where old ghillie said the bores look perfect. OP, what is the length of pull? Last photo looks short, the overview looks fine. I agree with Brian Gunsa that a 20 ga. is going to come at a premium. In particular with English stock and double triggers.
 
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