Mauser C-96 Red 9 need info, fast! ;) (pict. heavy...)

Many Broomhandles came into Canada in the 1980's from China.
They were in poor condition with mismatched serial numbers. Many were refinished.

This is not one of them but if it is mismatched then it is worth much less to collectors.
If it is matching in the condition shown in the photo's I would think $3000 with stock. Mismatched maybe half of that.
 
gaff said:
the cracks in the stock kill its value.
the rear sight base is messed up . big time ... this one may have had a fixed sight originally. this destroys the value.
do you have picture of the back of the action and hammer area?
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Thanks gaff,
I do not have some pict. of the back of the action. but when I'll have in hand, you can be certain that it is one of the first things I will check with the matching numbers....
 
gaff said:
other things to consider : are all parts matching including grips ?
is there any setback in the locking lugs ?
is there setback in the firing pin retaining bolt area, cracks?
is it the original barrel or sleeved?
are all the serial numbers in the same font and size ?
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I actually do not know alot about these firearms, so all input is really appreciated ;)
 
LA cowboy said:
Many Broomhandles came into Canada in the 1980's from China.
They were in poor condition with mismatched serial numbers. Many were refinished.

This is not one of them but if it is mismatched then it is worth much less to collectors.
If it is matching in the condition shown in the photo's I would think $3000 with stock. Mismatched maybe half of that.
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I did presume this was not one of them with the research I did.
The first thing I will take a look at when I have it in hands is the matching numbers. Happy to have some input on value. Thanks!
 
The piece on a C-96 that breaks most often is the Bolt Stop.

Check it for serialization to the gun.

I have a Red 9 as well, alas, mine has an incorrect rear sight leaf, I have the .30 cal leaf that's calibrated out to 900 meters.

The pistol looks to be in good condition, better than mine.

Enjoy it if you buy it, and let me know if your fired brass ends up coming out looking slightly....odd....as well. I think the chamber reamer that was used to make my pistol was actually a modified .30 Mauser reamer because my brass comes out with a slight shoulder on it after firing.

Something to look for.

NS
 
Last ones I saw for auction 5 years ago went in the $2500 range. 5years later the 5-6k range might not but that far off. It looks to be in very nice condition.
 
the gun you posted pictures of has a Bubba rear sight base, this gun is a shooter at best. with this damage ,I think the value is way lower than others here seem to think.

you will have to disassemble it to insure the internal parts match.
 
the gun you posted pictures of has a Bubba rear sight base, this gun is a shooter at best. with this damage ,I think the value is way lower than others here seem to think.

you will have to disassemble it to insure the internal parts match.
 
gaff said:
the gun you posted pictures of has a Bubba rear sight base, this gun is a shooter at best. with this damage ,I think the value is way lower than others here seem to think.

you will have to disassemble it to insure the internal parts match.
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I am intrigued....what makes it a Bubba sight? Not sayin you are wrong, but everybody else that saw it doesn't seem to think the same thing.... :confused:
 
This is what the sight base should look like:

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And here's a fixed-sight version, which was a police variant:

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The OP's gun has definitely been worked on by someone. The bolsters the rear sight leaf is pinned to look to be silver soldered on and are square in shape, not rounded and part of the upper like in the above pics.

As gaff mentioned, it's possible the upper was converted from a fixed sight model, but most fixed sight models had a shorter 3,7/8" barrel.
 
Rather then "Need Info and Price Fast!" it's best not to blow your money on a POS in 3 and a half seconds.

It's not the only one out there in the world. Take your time and buy the right one. Not a Hump Job.

Don't get too excited with the hype of the "Barrett-Jackson Cheerleaders" quoting you prices on a "sight unseen gun" because $6,000 is a big difference from $600.

They just saved you 10 times your money if you didn't already drop 6 G's!




carojoe said:
Don't know where to start with this one.....It is offered to me, and don't know where to start from, so here are pictures. No price has been established yet. What do you think....I found that it is probably between 1911 and 1915, but for the rest, I did found info, but I admit I am lost in them. What can you tell me about it? Value?
Thanks in advance!
Joe









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$1K for a non-split stock is not the same as a split stock. That stock has two major cracks that I count, perhaps more. It's not worth $1000. Even repaired, it's not worth anything close to $1000.
 
Claven2 said:
$1K for a non-split stock is not the same as a split stock. That stock has two major cracks that I count, perhaps more. It's not worth $1000. Even repaired, it's not worth anything close to $1000.
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So let me get this straight, a nice stock with all the hardware is worth more then a cracked stock with missing hardware.
Seems.... about right.

What would you say the old split stock with a missing screw is worth? Half of a nice one? Less?

I'm assuming your estimated value for the parts pistol at around $600 didn't include the crappy old cracked stock.

I wonder what a guy would pay for the Red 9 grips on ebay?

Broken down into parts and including the stock for $600 seems like a good deal.

It's strange how the range markings on the site have been ground down.
 
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The stock by itself is worth, in my opinion, $400-500 as it sits. No, the $600 does not include the stock.

Given the issues with the gun, I'd want to see those grips in person to make sure they are not reproductions, but if they are real they are perhaps the most valuable thing on that gun.

Everything about the rear sight parts, base, etc. screams "issues" to me. To be frank, if this gun were offered to me at almost any price, I would pass on it. Faked/humped/butchered collectibles aren't really my "thing".
 
Claven offers some pretty excellent advice. The only 2cents that I would add, is if you really want a broomhandle and this would be an example for you, and you don't mind all of the above issues and the price is appropriate (<$1000) then maybe it is for you. If you want a pure matching example, or one with very few issues then steer clear of this gun.
 
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