Mauser help

I'm not sure about the bolt

the safety doesn't work like it should.... like the cocking piece is not correct. When cocked, it is not far enough back to allow the safety to engage.

the bolt has some numbers cut off... looks like maybe it was cut/bent??
 

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VZ 24 action. All standard Gew 98 pattern rifle parts will work. Bolt, safety, trigger, etc.
Depending on the stock you use, the handguard, nose cap, barrel band, will be different.
 
as this one is already bubba'd up some, I am only interested in making it a safe shooter

If I can easily get it to be a basic repeater, that'll be the way I think would work best

so, just a basic sporter of no collector value/concern

As for parts.... I don't know why the bolt/safety is giving me issues. I wish I had another one to look at.
 
How the Mauser supposed to work - when you close the bolt (cocked - ready to fire) the original military cocking piece should be held back by the sear from the trigger. (on the bottom of the cocking piece). When you engage the original safety lever - turn it from straight left to vertical - should be a slope ground on the safety - that will pull the cocking piece slightly off the trigger's sear - maybe a couple thousandths - half the thickness of piece of paper. Some folks used bench grinder, or parts were never matched - so that safety lever slope can not engage top front of that cocking piece - you get that when someone ground away at the sear face or the cocking piece face - that moves the cocking piece forward, where the safety lever can no longer grab it. So, was two parts to that - original safety lever has to cam that cocking piece back slightly - either the sear or the safety holds the cocking piece back - not both - and when safety has got it, the trigger sear must be free enough to go up/down in front of cocking piece - not binding on stock, no grit or gunk preventing that movement. Is a pretty good system - except easily defeated by dirty, lack of maintenance, or "making trigger pull work better" ...
 
Potash Miner

you describe what is happening with mine.

close the bolt, and the gun cocks normally (or so it seems) and the trigger pull feels the same
BUT the safety cannot slide forward of the cocking piece

IF I pull the bolt out, and force the cocking piece back farther, and set the safety, the bolt works as it should, allowing the bolt to enter/close in the action with the safety vertical, and locking the bolt closed when over to the right

swinging the safety over to the left, makes a slight snap sound, and the cocking piece move forward enough that the safety no longer can slide against the forward edge, just hit the body

I don't think I have another sear, but may have a cocking piece. I believe I have a Timney trigger for the M98 in my tickle trunk. I'll have to measure the distance from the pivot pin to the sear to see if the sear was altered on the original, or the cocking piece.

I will check my spare cocking piece to see if it is the same style as the M98... if it is, I may install it and try it out

More to come
 
trying to upload pics of the bolt

Top one, safety set, showing length of cocking piece out the back

bottom one, safety off, showing leng....

BIG difference
 

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Check to see if the bottom of the bolt handle root sits flat on top of the action when the bolt is in the firing position. If it’s not the safety Will not work. This is a common problem when people turn down the bolt handle. A small amount of material may need to be removed on the bolt handle and or action.
 
gaff said:
Check to see if the bottom of the bolt handle root sits flat on top of the action when the bolt is in the firing position. If it’s not the safety Will not work. This is a common problem when people turn down the bolt handle. A small amount of material may need to be removed on the bolt handle and or action.
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Yep, as I have discovered - is all a "system" that worked very well when original - then mess with one part and do not realize how that is altering the system which impedes what another part was supposed to do.
 
I think I found the problem

I took a look at a M96 sear vs the Problem Child

someone DEFINITELY too some material off the M98

when I laid up my Timney for Mauser, I spotted the issue right away, so looked at my M96, and I am sure this is the issue.

I need to replace this sear
 

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gaff said:
Check to see if the bottom of the bolt handle root sits flat on top of the action when the bolt is in the firing position. If it’s not the safety Will not work. This is a common problem when people turn down the bolt handle. A small amount of material may need to be removed on the bolt handle and or action.
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once I replace the trigger assembly, I will check this if I still have issues, but when I DO pull back the cocking piece, and set the safety, everything does appear normal, locking the bolt as it should, releasing it as it should

check out the pic of the sear.... someone must have used a bench grinder to make it a "target" trigger???
 
I found I have a stock (sportered military, and aftermarket)
I also found a trigger guard assembly, with a spring (although, I'll need a complete assembly for another project on a M96)
It appears to fit
I'm only short a follower and action screws from what I can tell

This may be doable for me
 
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