Mauser in 308/7.62x51 what do you recommend?
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Israeli. Definitely Israeli.
I had one and boy, do I ever miss it.
I had one and boy, do I ever miss it.
The "Israeli Mausers" are all based on the model 98 Mausers
, while only a portion of the Spanish ones (i.e. the 1943/FR-8's) are....
A while ago, you could find good Model-98 ".308 Mausers" for $250/a piece.......now, they've almost doubled in price , but you can still find some for $350/piece if you look hard enough.....
Semi-related, I see that there's an FR-7 type (i.e. the "less strong" 1916 ) on the E&E now for $250 or so ?
...now, they've almost doubled in price , but you can still find some for $350/piece if you look hard enough.....Semi-related, I see that there's an FR-7 type (i.e. the "less strong" 1916
) on the E&E now for $250 or so ?Also
- and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong ! - the Israeli ones have "bent-bolt" handles , more often than not....
That depends. There are few variations of Israeli 98k rifles: Ex German, Czech post war and FN contract made rifles.
FN examples will be blued with the IDF crest on the receiver ring and generally cost a bit more. Ex German rifles will have peened eagles and most Czech examples have the lion crest on the receiver ring. Both German and Czech rifles are most often parkerized. Gew 98 and G24 receivers have also been encountered.
These rifles were re-barreled to 7.62 from 1956 to 1958 and were arsenal refinished right up to 1975 using beech stocks.
Here we have a FN rifle above (IDF crest) and ex nazi below (dou 41).
A nice Israeli will run you around $450-$550 with a nice FN being more than that. A decent one about $350-400ish
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The Chilean Mausers that were made by Steyr in 1912, are 98 clones. They are darn good shooters as well.
Tradex was offering them in standard and long lengths. Overall, darn good rifles
They also offered some 95 Mausers that were converted to 7.62x51. Just understand, the 7.62x51 pressures run quite a bit lower than 308 Win, around 47000psi. Close enough for the safe range of the 95 actions.
All of the recent imports I've seen have excellent bores.
I will admit, the Israeli Mausers are nice but they aren't any different than the Chilean examples mechanically. VG to ecxellent Mausers are pricey these days. They aren't nearly as available as they were a few years ago either.
If you find a VG example anywhere in the $350 to $500 range, go for it.
The Chilean Mausers that were made by Steyr in 1912, are 98 clones. They are darn good shooters as well.
Tradex was offering them in standard and long lengths. Overall, darn good rifles
They also offered some 95 Mausers that were converted to 7.62x51. Just understand, the 7.62x51 pressures run quite a bit lower than 308 Win, around 47000psi. Close enough for the safe range of the 95 actions.
All of the recent imports I've seen have excellent bores.
I will admit, the Israeli Mausers are nice but they aren't any different than the Chilean examples mechanically. VG to ecxellent Mausers are pricey these days. They aren't nearly as available as they were a few years ago either.
If you find a VG example anywhere in the $350 to $500 range, go for it.
That depends. There are few variations of Israeli 98k rifles: Ex German, Czech post war and FN contract made rifles.
FN examples will be blued with the IDF crest on the receiver ring and generally cost a bit more. Ex German rifles will have peened eagles and most Czech examples have the lion crest on the receiver ring. Both German and Czech rifles are most often parkerized. Gew 98 and G24 receivers have also been encountered.
These rifles were re-barreled to 7.62 from 1956 to 1958 and were arsenal refinished right up to 1975 using beech stocks.
Here we have a FN rifle above (IDF crest) and ex nazi below (dou 41).
A nice Israeli will run you around $450-$550 with a nice FN being more than that. A decent one about $350-400ish
Those rifles look great! $450-550 is not bad too.
Is the metallurgy of the 1950s barrels a step up from the originals?
Not sure what you mean by that. Old world German rifles used the finest steel and spared no expense in manufacturing. Czech arms manufacturing was also top notch as was Fabrique National. Israeli barrels are excellent as well, highly accurate and made on original German tooling which had been acquired by Israel after the war. Most mass produced firearms today are junk compared to back then in terms of quality and material.
If you're asking if they will fire .308 the answer is yes. The M98 action is one of the strongest ever made, numerous high power sporting rifles were made from them after the war firing all sorts of magnums. I have shot hundreds of rounds through Izzy's in the past, never a problem with .308
Just bought a israeli for $299 in good condition. A czech model with missmatched parts. Found one a week after shooting a czech israeli the weekend before! Great guns. Accurate and have a punch. Lots of history attached to these rifles. Especially the Israelis. So, they can be found and for a good price.
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Here we have a FN rifle above (IDF crest) and ex nazi below (dou 41).
Those are certainly nice looking rifles!
BTW, do they load with M14 strippers clips and do they feed/extract smoothly?
BTW, do they load with M14 strippers clips and do they feed/extract smoothly?
They cycle smooth as butter. Magwells have spacer blocks up foreward.
They use standard Mauser stripper clips (7.62/308 pops right in) I have a bunch of original German as well as Israeli parked ones that I use. M14 clips don't fit.
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