Mauser K98 Question

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I am looking for the collective wisdom of the Milsurp section. I was at a local gun store and saw two Mauser K98s sitting for sale. As I haven't seen one of these in a while, I asked to see them. I wish I had taken pictures but I didn't want to weird out the staff so I will try my best to recall what I saw. Both rifles were Nazi era from what I could see as they both had the Eagles on the receiver and barrel. One was marked Byf 43 on the top of the receiver and I believe that the second was marked BuF (can't remember the number). Neither were matching with the original serial numbers and looked to be forced matched with electro-stenciled serial numbers on the floorplate and the other hardware around the rifle. The bluing on both rifles seemed kind of worn but nothing spectacularly good or particularly bad (I would judge it to be around the 8-90% bluing). Neither rifle had a sight hood and when I asked what they came with the staff was kind enough to bring out their boxes. In each box there were two sets of ammo pouches, a cleaning rod, an old metal oiler, and one box had a chain pull through and one had a string pull through. The only other observation was that one had a more pitted bore (the BYF 43) and the second had a less pitted bore but after handling the BuF one I had what looked like finish on my hand from the stock (looked like chips of finish)

I am by no means a Mauser K98 expert/collector but I was interested in getting a mauser and these seemed like a decent buy. I have two questions:

1.) Are these Russian Captured Mausers?

2.) Are they worth the asking price ~$730+tax?

I am interested in getting a piece of history but I don't want get ripped off either. Thanks in advance for your help.
 
They sound like Russian capture rifles to me, you can join the EE and get them cheaper from someone selling on here. I own a russian capture and they clean up very nice, it is worth it to get one before they dry up.
 
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Sounds like RC mausers. They are historical, as can be without breaking the bank.
These rifles stocks tend to be shellacked by Russians as they tried to preserve stocks as cheap as possible.
Main things to look at is the bore condition as these are shooters mainly. If you are planning to keep as collectible, get one with eagles intact and big X on receiver. This is what future generations will look for as these rifles been there and done the deeds.

Glock4ever said:
I am looking for the collective wisdom of the Milsurp section. I was at a local gun store and saw two Mauser K98s sitting for sale. As I haven't seen one of these in a while, I asked to see them. I wish I had taken pictures but I didn't want to weird out the staff so I will try my best to recall what I saw. Both rifles were Nazi era from what I could see as they both had the Eagles on the receiver and barrel. One was marked Byf 43 on the top of the receiver and I believe that the second was marked BuF (can't remember the number). Neither were matching with the original serial numbers and looked to be forced matched with electro-stenciled serial numbers on the floorplate and the other hardware around the rifle. The bluing on both rifles seemed kind of worn but nothing spectacularly good or particularly bad (I would judge it to be around the 8-90% bluing). Neither rifle had a sight hood and when I asked what they came with the staff was kind enough to bring out their boxes. In each box there were two sets of ammo pouches, a cleaning rod, an old metal oiler, and one box had a chain pull through and one had a string pull through. The only other observation was that one had a more pitted bore (the BYF 43) and the second had a less pitted bore but after handling the BuF one I had what looked like finish on my hand from the stock (looked like chips of finish)

I am by no means a Mauser K98 expert/collector but I was interested in getting a mauser and these seemed like a decent buy. I have two questions:

1.) Are these Russian Captured Mausers?

2.) Are they worth the asking price ~$730+tax?

I am interested in getting a piece of history but I don't want get ripped off either. Thanks in advance for your help.
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If you're patient, you'll likely find a nice RC in the EE for around $500. Personally, I'd hold out for a rifle that's a little more affordable.

- Chris
 
gewehr76 said:
Sounds like RC mausers. They are historical, as can be without breaking the bank.
These rifles stocks tend to be shellacked by Russians as they tried to preserve stocks as cheap as possible.
Main things to look at is the bore condition as these are shooters mainly. If you are planning to keep as collectible, get one with eagles intact and big X on receiver. This is what future generations will look for as these rifles been there and done the deeds.
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The more I read the more I am convinced that they are RC Mausers. I also remembered that they were missing the capture screws on the floorplate as well. They didn't seem to have a big X on the receiver. Where would I look to see the X?
 
Some do have some don't.
look for these type of x ses.
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Glock4ever said:
The more I read the more I am convinced that they are RC Mausers. I also remembered that they were missing the capture screws on the floorplate as well. They didn't seem to have a big X on the receiver. Where would I look to see the X?
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The advice above is correct. Seems a little steep for RC, but they are getting less available...

If you're just looking for a shooter SFRC has Yugo M48s for $550 or so. Lever Arms has Czech vz24s for $399...
 
Just so I understand this - I should be able to find a WW2 RC Mauser in the $500 price range? The same store I was at had M48 Zastavas for $530ish but I am not interested in a non-Nazi rifle. I was hoping to get a true German Mauser... thanks again guys.
 
Glock4ever said:
Just so I understand this - I should be able to find a WW2 RC Mauser in the $500 price range? The same store I was at had M48 Zastavas for $530ish but I am not interested in a non-Nazi rifle. I was hoping to get a true German Mauser... thanks again guys.
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I dunno if I agree.... the RC's seem to have really gone up a lot.
 
You can find an RC K98 for as low as $500 from a desperate seller on the EE. Your other option is finding a sporterized rifle with MM parts and then you need to source out a stock - these can sometimes be had at a similar price point. End of the day you will have a MM historical rifle - a sum of parts.

Is an RC worth over $700 ??? That depends on the buyer. There are some very rare K98 codes out there and sometimes an RC is the only way for a collector to fill a certain code/year of manufacture etc. into their collection. I am guilty of paying over $700 for an RC and I know other collectors who have done the same. However, this would be for a less common or rare code etc. Zf41 ex-sniper, BSW coded rifle, legit single rune rifle, etc. I just picked up a nice 'ar44' from P&D in Edmonton - lovely rifle with no 'X' - because I was able to hand select and the rifle came with 2x original pouches, cleaning rod, site hood and capture screws I was happy to pay $700+ tax. On the flip side for standard K98's I pay as low as $350.

I hope my two cents helped.
 
gaff said:
If you get one, take the one with the best bore.
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And test fire it if possible before leaving feedback! Doh! I didn't do that and there was massive head-space issue on my RC Mauser... not even "minute of pie plate" or safe to shoot. Luckily the seller was a stand up guy and refunded me my money.
 
Any difference in price from a straight bolt to a bent bolt K98? Seen a straight bolt but it's $769.00. Seemed a little steep to me unless a straight bolt is worth a premium for some reason. I was thinking more like $569.00 maybe for a price.

Last I bought was a bent bolt russian capture for $399.00 a few years ago. And it looks in better shape than the ones I am looking at now! Down to the bottom of the barrel now I guess.
 
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