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- Leduc County, Alberta
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What is the Canadian value of this type of rifle in good condition?
Just curious?
Thanks.
Mauser M.1871 Cavalry Carbine
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*Pic stolen from Interwebz*
What is the Canadian value of this type of rifle in good condition?
Just curious?
Thanks.
Kar. `71 in that kind of shape likely would bring better than $600 these days.
LOTS of them sold here before and after War one. Only trouble is that Bubba was here before them.
My first Kar-71, which I still have, was bought for $3 when I was still in high-school. Stock cut, rear sight missing, buttplate gone: had to make one at the local blacksmith shop with the blacksmith looking on.... my first repair. Good shooter, though, I still have it and it wont be for sale while I am still using air.
Got one a year ago, paid $75. Rear sight is there, as is buttplate. Wood horridly mutilated, split and broken, all at the same time. Next is a milling machine so I can make the parts for my original!
Nose caps are pure gold. They are the stumbling-block to restorations.
But you can still find a shooter (cut down) for $100 or thereabouts.
And they are FUN!
Hope this helps.
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LOTS of them sold here before and after War one. Only trouble is that Bubba was here before them.
My first Kar-71, which I still have, was bought for $3 when I was still in high-school. Stock cut, rear sight missing, buttplate gone: had to make one at the local blacksmith shop with the blacksmith looking on.... my first repair. Good shooter, though, I still have it and it wont be for sale while I am still using air.
Got one a year ago, paid $75. Rear sight is there, as is buttplate. Wood horridly mutilated, split and broken, all at the same time. Next is a milling machine so I can make the parts for my original!
Nose caps are pure gold. They are the stumbling-block to restorations.
But you can still find a shooter (cut down) for $100 or thereabouts.
And they are FUN!
Hope this helps.
.
Kar-71 was originally in 11.15x60R, otherwise known as .43 Mauser: 386-grain bullet, 446" diameter with an MV of 1360 ft/sec nominal. That was rom a 32-inch barrel; they were a bit slower through the Carbine, but your shoulder wouln't know the difference.
Guess they never heard of the special Carbine load.
Friend of mine made up a .446 sizing die and is running cast .45 pistol slugs through his and having a great old time at it.
Power approximates a .30-30 but the greater mass of the Mauser bullet will flatten anything short of a rabid dinosaur.
Perfect smokeless powder for loading this is SR4759, which you load at 38%-of-Black weights for original performance and safe pressures. Original load for the Rifle cartridge was 77 grains of Black; Carbine used about 55 grains of Black.
Original box notes for the CIL (Dominion) loading state that it has 1580 ft/ls ME. "If the rifle is sighted for a range of 100 ards, the bullet will strike approximately 2 inches high at 50 yards, and approximaely 3-1/2 inches low at 125 yards." Very like your average rainbow..... and riht in there with the .45-70, which everybody knows is the finest blackpowder military cartridge ever designed in the USA. In the USA, that is.
The French did a few conversions of surplus '71s to handle the 6.5 DAUDETAU artridge, sold them to Uruguay....... which kept them as active-service rifles for 2 years and then bought new Mausers.
Quite a few were altered as civilian target rifles, handling such rounds as the 10.5x47R, 8.15x46R and other stange beasts. These are rare now. The ones you will find here should be in the original calibre.
Most important point: do have fun!
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Guess they never heard of the special Carbine load.
Friend of mine made up a .446 sizing die and is running cast .45 pistol slugs through his and having a great old time at it.
Power approximates a .30-30 but the greater mass of the Mauser bullet will flatten anything short of a rabid dinosaur.
Perfect smokeless powder for loading this is SR4759, which you load at 38%-of-Black weights for original performance and safe pressures. Original load for the Rifle cartridge was 77 grains of Black; Carbine used about 55 grains of Black.
Original box notes for the CIL (Dominion) loading state that it has 1580 ft/ls ME. "If the rifle is sighted for a range of 100 ards, the bullet will strike approximately 2 inches high at 50 yards, and approximaely 3-1/2 inches low at 125 yards." Very like your average rainbow..... and riht in there with the .45-70, which everybody knows is the finest blackpowder military cartridge ever designed in the USA. In the USA, that is.
The French did a few conversions of surplus '71s to handle the 6.5 DAUDETAU artridge, sold them to Uruguay....... which kept them as active-service rifles for 2 years and then bought new Mausers.
Quite a few were altered as civilian target rifles, handling such rounds as the 10.5x47R, 8.15x46R and other stange beasts. These are rare now. The ones you will find here should be in the original calibre.
Most important point: do have fun!
.
- Location
- Leduc County, Alberta
Thanks for the info Smellie!
Saw one for sale, full wood un-messed with, for just over $1000. Was quite tempted...
Would some of that old Dominion .43 Mauser be the way to go with this rifle?
Cheers!
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Desert Fox
These old karbines went to the mounted troops, Hussars or Ulans,some Dragoon regiments, you should have an series of letters and #'s on the buttplate, show a closeup or spell out the unit designate exactly as it appears , do not leave out any periods or letters whether upper or lower case as in 3.U.3.122 , I'll try and help you indentify the regiment.Also need the manufacture.
These old karbines went to the mounted troops, Hussars or Ulans,some Dragoon regiments, you should have an series of letters and #'s on the buttplate, show a closeup or spell out the unit designate exactly as it appears , do not leave out any periods or letters whether upper or lower case as in 3.U.3.122 , I'll try and help you indentify the regiment.Also need the manufacture.
