Mauser problem...

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Hi all
Well Sparky decided it may be a good idea to strip a mauser bolt down to 200 pieces...
Now I cant get it back together again!!
I followed the discription on surplusrifel.com
and I am at the point where I press down on the shroud, then put the cocking piece on and twist it 90degrees.
Problem is it wont twist!
:redface:
Anyonw seen this, or know what I am doing wrong?
thanks Boer
 
Ever seen the spring shoot that firing pin into a board? It's quite something to see...;)
 
Push the shroud down (compressing the spring)until you have the clearance you need to put on the cocking piece.
 
Push the shroud down (compressing the spring)until you have the clearance you need to put on the cocking piece.
I get the cocking piece on but you are then supposed to twist 90 degrees but the bugger wont turn!
The firing pin is sort of oblong, and the shroud has a cut-out that fits, into it, the cocking pice has the same thing but for it to turn anywhere I'd have to turn it around the firing pin, this seems to be impossible.
Help!! lol
 
When everything is apart, try turning the cocking piece onto the firing pin. I've had some that were mismatched that would not turn.

If the cocking piece turns easily(it should) on the pin on the trial run, you'll have push harder on the shroud during assembly. You have to get the shroud as far as it will go onto the pin(spring fully compressed) before the cocking piece will fit properly onto the pin. It's easier to do than to describe.:)

In an effort to muddy the water further:), here's a video clip I made that sort of shows how to disassemble/assemble a Mauser bolt using a penny.

I'm working on a better version.

 
What baffles me is that this is a mod B and all the parts are stamped with the same serial number so this is the correct cocking piece of that I am certain.
thanks for the vid I'll give it a go
 
Does yours have the wing safety? And if so do you have it in the centre position? On one of my sporting rifles without a wing safety, you need 3 hands to get it back together.
 
I have only stripped my bolts down a few times, but it'd be a good idea to see if it'll go back together sans the spring?

I suspect strongly the spring isn't compressed enough, and that's causing the cocking piece to snag on the shroud. I find that when I put my rifles back together, I put the firing pin on the block, compress it, and it embeds into softwood about 2-3 mm's or more. Then it usually takes my body weight while standing to keep it compressed while I spin it back on.

The other two were much more reasonable, but you may have one of those gosh darned super springs...
 
The Spring is actually very weak and goes down as far as it will go, I tried without the spring and still nothing.
I think I should just take it to as smith to see what the heck is wrong with it. I am thinking something to do with the grooves in the cocking piece but I can not see anything in there that may be blocking it.
 
If this was assembled it should reassemble after dismantling. It sounds like the cocking piece and firing pin won't assemble. Either could be burred as these are very close toleranced parts. Could get some lapping compound and try to work the two together. If not you need to replace the damaged or worn part. I just finished a Parker Hale bolt that had this issue...was in the cocking piece.
 
If this was assembled it should reassemble after dismantling. It sounds like the cocking piece and firing pin won't assemble. Either could be burred as these are very close toleranced parts.
i think thats the problem too.
 
I have encountered this problem especially on older well used guns. I think what happens is that over time the firing pin & cocking piece get a good whacking and "deform" slightly. Sometimes it is difficult to de-assemble for the same reason. Here is what I do - get 2 small vice-grips, pad the jaws with masking tape / other material. Without the spring / shroud in place & the firing pin held with one grip and the cp held by the other start turning, go round and round many times till things loosen (wear in) up. Somtimes I deburr the slots etc. lightly with a very small fine file (take it very easy doing that) usually you will see, after doing the spin around shiny spots in & on the locking slots. Hope that helps. --- John 303.
 
Got it working!
As they say the bigger the problem the bigger the hammer....
The Cocking piece needed to move down onto the Firing pin by about a quarter of a milimeter.
So a good wack with a mallet was all that was needed.... :)
Works fine now!
Thanks for all the input guys!
 
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