Mausers for sale in the EE or anywhere, do your research!!

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Some high end early German mausers for sale recently, (currently) make sure you do your research on pieces before dropping huge cash.

Ask questions here or PM myself, or Jbmauser, or a bunch of other knowledgable guys on here.
 
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I wish you would fly to the Calgary gun show every year and just stand by the dude selling fake K98 snipers as all matching originals with the prices to go with it.
When I confronted him about one, he got angry with me when I pointed out that electro penciling and force matching parts isn't "original, all matching" and that the ZF4 and mount were also non matching.
 
Recce21 said:
I wish you would fly to the Calgary gun show every year and just stand by the dude selling fake K98 snipers as all matching originals with the prices to go with it.
When I confronted him about one, he got angry with me when I pointed out that electro penciling and force matching parts isn't "original, all matching" and that the ZF4 and mount were also non matching.
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Don't bother confronting this fellow, he's heard it all before from all of us.
 
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Another case of "Buy the Rifle, NOT the Story."

It is amazing just how "inventive" some people are when selling these "rare" rifles. Some have no idea of the difference between "Sporter" and "Sporterized" when it comes to rifles. Many of these sellers have "bought the story" and are repeating it because they do not know better, and are very quick to get irate when something is pointed out to them by more knowledgeable Collectors, or when you ask for Provenance to back up their story or firearm.
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Another one of my favorite "provenance" milsurp stories was the lady at one of the antique shops in Airdrie selling a M33 SA Dagger for $400.
I immediately see it has plastic grips and says "Made in Germany" on it.
I inform her that it is a post war repro and she was not happy! Said she got it from a vet.
I tell her while I don't doubt that she got it from a WW2 vet who acquired it in Germany, it is none the less a post war dagger hence the "Made in Germany" on it and that no original M33 had plastic grips.
I told her that it was wrong to sell a $70 repro for original dagger prices and that she could end up swindling someone less knowledgeable. She was pretty angry by then and so I just walked away but not before asking her why an original M33 which was made solely for German use would bother having "Made in Germany" put on it and in ENGLISH.
She didn't have an answer.
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Another case of "Buy the Rifle, NOT the Story."

It is amazing just how "inventive" some people are when selling these "rare" rifles. Some have no idea of the difference between "Sporter" and "Sporterized" when it comes to rifles. Many of these sellers have "bought the story" and are repeating it because they do not know better, and are very quick to get irate when something is pointed out to them by more knowledgeable Collectors, or when you ask for Provenance to back up their story or firearm.
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The collecting community needs more guys like you Andrew. You may have just saved a beginner $2/3K simply by taking the time to post a quick and easy thread!
 
Recce21 said:
Another one of my favorite "provenance" milsurp stories was the lady at one of the antique shops in Airdrie selling a M33 SA Dagger for $400.
I immediately see it has plastic grips and says "Made in Germany" on it.
I inform her that it is a post war repro and she was not happy! Said she got it from a vet.
I tell her while I don't doubt that she got it from a WW2 vet who acquired it in Germany, it is none the less a post war dagger hence the "Made in Germany" on it and that no original M33 had plastic grips.
I told her that it was wrong to sell a $70 repro for original dagger prices and that she could end up swindling someone less knowledgeable. She was pretty angry by then and so I just walked away but not before asking her why an original M33 which was made solely for German use would bother having "Made in Germany" put on it and in ENGLISH.
She didn't have an answer.
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Well, not so fast on thinking the MADE IN GERMANY is postwar. I have seen numerous, original German produced parts and original wartime tires (Continental/Dunlops/Deka and Fulda) marked with the Made In Germany. Yes it throws you when you first see it but the thing was English was the "business language" and in the inter war years products made for export (cameras, electrical parts, tires to name a few) would be marked as such. Now if it said Made in West Germany then its obviously postwar. Taking this one farther step I have seen Made In The U.S.S.R on BRDM2 tires. As edged weapons are not my area of knowledge I shall leave that for others to illuminate.
More on the subject to read here. http://www.dw.de/125-years-of-made-in-germany/a-16188583
 
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Even if you don't know what questions to ask, simply asking "does this look right", "are there any issues", etc. the more knowledgeable mauser guys are pretty friendly and approachable and obviously happy to help.
 
Agreed but none of that applies to German blades such as HJ, Heer, SS, SA, RAD etc etc
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Well, not so fast on thinking the MADE IN GERMANY is postwar. I have seen numerous, original German produced parts and original wartime tires (Continental/Dunlops/Deka and Fulda) marked with the Made In Germany. Yes it throws you when you first see it but the thing was English was the "business language" and in the inter war years products made for export (cameras, electrical parts, tires to name a few) would be marked as such. Now if it said Made in West Germany then its obviously postwar. Taking this one farther step I have seen Made In The U.S.S.R on BRDM2 tires. As edged weapons are not my area of knowledge I shall leave that for others to illuminate.
More on the subject to read here. http://www.dw.de/125-years-of-made-in-germany/a-16188583
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XRCD011 said:
Well, not so fast on thinking the MADE IN GERMANY is postwar. I have seen numerous, original German produced parts and original wartime tires (Continental/Dunlops/Deka and Fulda) marked with the Made In Germany. Yes it throws you when you first see it but the thing was English was the "business language" and in the inter war years products made for export (cameras, electrical parts, tires to name a few) would be marked as such. Now if it said Made in West Germany then its obviously postwar. Taking this one farther step I have seen Made In The U.S.S.R on BRDM2 tires. As edged weapons are not my area of knowledge I shall leave that for others to illuminate.
More on the subject to read here. http://www.dw.de/125-years-of-made-in-germany/a-16188583
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Items made for export could be marked, but an SA dagger was not one of those. And typically an item like that would have had a makers mark and origin anyways. Those daggers are works of art, made in Germany was never applied.

Agreed Remembering. I remember asking guys really simple questions, that these days seem ridiculous, but everyone was a beginner once.

I dropped $1700 on my first German coded matching k98, and it was not taken lightly. I did all my research before, so there were no surprises.

I know Canada is a tough climate to buy original German rifles, but wasting or mid spending your money doesn't help you.
 
It's not only a Mauser thing, there is a ZF'd white banded No1 MkIII* in the EE right now being sold as a non matching shooter. That rifle was CONDEMNED by an Armorer. Another reason to know your stuff! I will be contacting its owner via PM as well. I see he has a huge trader rating and I imagine this is simply a case of not knowing what the markings mean.

*I PM'd the seller, ready to get nuked. Laidler said whatever caused a given rifle to be ZFd may not be apparent even with gauges, as in the case of a fire etc and these are never to be considered safe. Alternatively if I had a wood set that was ZF marked I would be getting rid of it for fear that whatever rifle it went on would now be considered unsafe too. I think CanadianAR unfortunately knows all about this mark too.
 
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Guys, the point I was making was MADE IN GERMANY was a marking that could be found on Wartime German produced goods and the chances of seeing it on products of the Reich exists. I never said it should/could or would be on something like a SA knife which would hardly fall in the exportable goods category. My mentor, David Crompton once said "the more I learn the less I know" and I have shamelessly stolen that as my own.
 
CanadianAR said:
Some high end early German mausers for sale recently, (currently) make sure you do your research on pieces before dropping huge cash.

Ask questions here or PM myself, or Jbmauser, or a bunch of other knowledgable guys on here.
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Great thing to offer - Thanks! :cheers:
 
flying pig said:
It's not only a Mauser thing, there is a ZF'd white banded No1 MkIII* in the EE right now being sold as a non matching shooter. That rifle was CONDEMNED by an Armorer. Another reason to know your stuff! I will be contacting its owner via PM as well. I see he has a huge trader rating and I imagine this is simply a case of not knowing what the markings mean.

*I PM'd the seller, ready to get nuked. Laidler said whatever caused a given rifle to be ZFd may not be apparent even with gauges, as in the case of a fire etc and these are never to be considered safe. Alternatively if I had a wood set that was ZF marked I would be getting rid of it for fear that whatever rifle it went on would now be considered unsafe too. I think CanadianAR unfortunately knows all about this mark too.
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Could just be salvaged wood on that gun. Honestly, buying from the EE you just take what you can and hope for the best.

One time there was a certain drill purpose rifle someone was selling that turned out to not be a drill purpose rifle at all... ;)
 
Here is an example for the year 1906, on a 1906 American Eagle Luger. See the picture halfway down on the link.
German Lugers for export were marked Germany.
These Parabellum were intended for sale outside Germany The "Germany" export stamp denotes this gun was exported.
The extractor was also marked in English rather than German for "Loaded".

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