Maybe a dumb question TOo... waht a 30-06 case is trim at 2.843 instead of 2.484

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SOrry for the Title... Should read...What if a 30-06 case is trimmed at 2.483 instead of 2.484

Hi guys ... Using lock Stud and case gauge from Lee ... and when In debur and chamfer. I got some case that get under 2.484... at 2.483 and maybe 2.4825 SO I'm wondering if it's dangerous to shoot them.. or Will there be a great influence on accuracy...Or maybe Its better to not shoot them...
 
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Unless you are crimping them, it will make little to no difference. I wouldn't be too worried myself. In a bolt gun, you will likely not notice at all.

If you need to crimp them, you should have them all the same length at least, although that is a pretty insignificant amount of neck length variation and they would likely still crimp ok, just not 100 % uniformly from shell to shell.
 
Unless you are crimping them, it will make little to no difference. I wouldn't be too worried myself. In a bolt gun, you will likely not notice at all.

If you need to crimp them, you should have them all the same length at least, although that is a pretty insignificant amount of neck length variation and they would likely still crimp ok, just not 100 % uniformly from shell to shell.

Thanks for your answer I was just about to throw all of the case that went too short..
 
Actually, as a normal practice, I trim my .30-06 to 2.475 or a little longer. This lets it go longer between trims. I figure if you're going to trim it back, why stop at 2.484? It's not like your neck is desperately short in a .30-06.

As long as you're below 2.494, you're OK. Twenty thousandths trimmed is OK. Hell, I've trimmed back to 2.465 and not seen a difference. Don't start sweating minor things like .001 in trim length. That kind of a variation won't even make a difference in a benchrest rifle, much less a hunting rifle.
 
Even if you have a good trimmer, it is challenging to keep the cartridge lengths to within .001. The purpose of the neck is to hold the bullet, and from a safety stand point it doesn't make much difference how long the neck is, although the more consistent the length is from round to round the better the accuracy you'll likely observe. Consider the .300 Savage and the .300 H&H. Both cartridges hold .30 caliber bullets, but the neck of the Savage is very short and the neck of the H&H is very long, yet both are successful cartridge designs. Occasionally, I trim '06 cases very short if the neck has been damaged, although I seldom use these cases for full powdered loads after that, but it is a uniformity issue rather than a safety issue.

If you are crimping with an RCBS or Redding seating die, consider crimping as a separate operation. If you simply adjust the die for each individual cartridge your crimps will be more uniform.

When I crimp I don't bother with the lock ring. Raise the seating stem to the top of it's travel, thread the die in until it makes contact with the case mouth when the ram is at the top of it's travel, then turn the die in another 1/8th of a turn and crimp. Because I don't use the lock ring I turn the case a half turn and run it up a second time to ensure the crimp is even on all sides. If your bullet has a deep crimping groove, you can actually crimp by turning the die in by hand until you feel it stop. I've found this technique works well with cast bullets.
 
As the others have written, .001" is really nothing considering all the other things going into those cases that don't or won't have as tight a tolerance. They will be as safe as you can make them most likely. However, in my experience if you have to trim a case for length more than four or five times, the neck wall thickness is probably all out of whack and that can get dangerous pretty quick. Just make sure you can stick a bullet in the neck of a fired case with little to no resistence with your fingers and all should be well.
 
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