McMillan MFS-14 allowed for Canadians?

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So...

As some of you may know I have a major erection for the Troy MCS... I was tempted to order one from the US and risk losing it, but then common sense kicked in and I realized I would be very upset to have an $800+ stock seized by customs (the least of my worries).


Anyway...

In searching for an alternative replacement I came across the McMillan MFS-14... it looks like a nice, efficient, practical stock.

Does anyone have any info on it? Can this be sold to us lowly Canadian civies?

I'd really like to get one.
Thanks :)
 
I know a few have made it up here but I beleive they require an export permit as well. It never hurts to try. The thing with those is they have to be bedded to the rifle and they are not cheap.
 
Check the EE Forum, I think there is one there advertised.

I just looked at the ad again, it comes with the rifle, etc....$2K++;)
 
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Be aware that this stuff is not an import issue and Canada customs is not normally the problem. The problem is getting it out of the USA legally. USA issues only! Not that I would suggest buying McMillan, just calling a spade a spade.
 
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As Is mentioned, this is a state department issue in the u.s. , which affects many military type arms and thier designated accessories. The m14 is HIGH on thier DO NOT GIVE TO CANADIAN CIVVIES list.
Looks like i'll have to step up the pace on my up and coming AR type collapseable m14 stock, which will enable all milspec buufer tube assemblies to be mounted and AR 15 grips as well.... it will ONLY be availlable in canada. I'm working as fast as i can to bring it to cgn first..... hold on to your pennies.... we're almost there ;)
 
Is the McMillan stock in question not also available for the M1A rifle?
www.jwprecision.ca lists the stock as available. The US Government does not have a position on the M1A, as far as stocks go, I would imagine if the stock isn't inlet for the "joy button" you should be OK, just make sure that the dealer correctly describes the item. Also ensure that the dealer is aware of the difference and the potential consequences of improperly describing the product in question.
 
G37 said:
So...

As some of you may know I have a major erection for the Troy MCS... I was tempted to order one from the US and risk losing it, but then common sense kicked in and I realized I would be very upset to have an $800+ stock seized by customs (the least of my worries).


Anyway...

In searching for an alternative replacement I came across the McMillan MFS-14... it looks like a nice, efficient, practical stock.

Does anyone have any info on it? Can this be sold to us lowly Canadian civies?

I'd really like to get one.
Thanks :)
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all you have to do is, go on the net and do some research on retail in the US, some retailer will send it to you, all it take is money, it might even be cheaper to buy state side and shipped up here if you have friends in state side...
 
if a u.s. dealers advertised or catalog description... or thier wholesalers/manufacturers advertised or catalog description contains the wording m14 or m21 ect..... it is subject to export regulation.... period.
many items are allowed if they are simply labelled m1a from the get go. A u.s. company wanting to attract canadian sales for an item they are producing for the m14 series rifles, needs to simply make them an m1a part and drop the m14 designation all together.
 
45ACPKING said:
if a u.s. dealers advertised or catalog description... or thier wholesalers/manufacturers advertised or catalog description contains the wording m14 or m21 ect..... it is subject to export regulation.... period.
many items are allowed if they are simply labelled m1a from the get go. A u.s. company wanting to attract canadian sales for an item they are producing for the m14 series rifles, needs to simply make them an m1a part and drop the m14 designation all together.
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This is why Boyd's has no problems shipping "M1A" stocks, even though the stock is only a cut away from working with both.
 
Every gun item in the USA is subject to export regulations, period. Doesn't matter what gun it is for, period. A scope made in China that we can buy direct is controlled once inside the USA. Boyds may be shipping under the $100 max rules which seems to currently apply. A cutout on the stock makes no difference.
 
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Ian It does the US State Dept recognizes the M14 as a Military FA rifle /Parts /Accessories and is not to be Exported with out US State Dept Approval .While the Springfield M1A is exportable as Sporting Firearm as are all parts /accessories so marked .I also talked to McM at shot and was told the same thing in regards to there stocks all MCM stocks like the M2 &M14FS can be made in both M1A or M14 configurations
 
the Max is now 300.00 but that is apples and oranges. Boyd's stock are exportable from the u.s because they are sold, advertised and marketted as an M1A stock.... which is subject to U.S. customs approval, m14 parts require STATE DEPARTMENT approval..... 2 very different things. Getting on the wrong side of the u.s. state department puts you on a Shzit List you DO NOT WANT TO BE ON. Guys, I have made it my business to know where i sit on the import/export of m14 TYPE parts. ALL PARTS LABELLED m14 are subject to U.S. State Dept regulation and MUST have export documentation/approval... doesn't matter if it is a .02 cent roll pin.
And listening to the guy above that says.... some U.S.retailer will send it to you :eek: .... all you need is cash..... is a good way to get yourself in a U.S. jail the next time you decide to cross the line for milk n cheese.
try it.... i dare ya :evil:
 
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I got mine with the long rail on the bottom/sides from an outfit in BC ... rockymountainrifles.com or something like that ... I'll check my e-mails at work and let you know ... I waited almost 4 months but received it ... cost me close to $1000 shipped ... you do have to bed it ... however, it's quite tight on my norinco M305 ... building a shorty project ... will have pics some day! I LOVE IT ... ;)

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
Here's the pic from McMillan's site.

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Here is my Springfield M1A in it to see how it looks ... I'm putting my Norinco M305 shorty project in this when it's finally done.

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My Norinco M305 here in camo on the bottom will eventually be put in the McMillan stock ...

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Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
"...the Max is now 300.00..." $500US for Canadians, according to Gunparts. Still apples and oranges though. If like 45ACPKING says, the part says M14 on it or the paperwork has M14 on it, the part is restricted for export. If it says M1A, it isn't. An M1A is an expensive, commercial, sporting rifle. An M14 is an SA or FA battle rifle.
Not all firearms or parts are controlled either. Only major parts like barrels, barrel blanks, cylinders, bolt and their assemblies, frames, 'high capacity' mags and receivers are controlled.
 
45ACPKING thanks as I love that camo stock as well ... can't remember where I got it though. I can't wait to finish my shorty project with my Norinco as I'm gonna have the barrel chopped, put in some USGI innards, ARMS 18 mount, SE muzzle brake, put her in the McMillan stock, etc and have her painted up in TW cadpat ... just gotta work some things out as I have all the parts and hopefully she'll be done some day soon.

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
sunray said:
"...the Max is now 300.00..." $500US for Canadians, according to Gunparts.
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According to the US State Department Regulations as well its 500$ looked it up once its in Sec123.16 (Exemptions Relating to Canada).

2) District Directors of Customs shall permit the export of components or spare parts (for exemptions for firearms and ammunition see Sec. 123.17) without a license when the total value does not exceed $500 in a single transaction
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Section 123.17 is the General Regluations for every country in the world but as posted above Canada gets a special 500$ limit.

(a) Except as provided in Sec. 126.1 of this subchapter, District Directors of Customs shall permit the export without a license of components and parts for Category I(a) firearms, except barrels, cylinders, receivers (frames) or complete breech mechanisms when the total value does not exceed $100 wholesale in any transaction.
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:)

Dimitri
 
45ACPKING...

How long until we get a preview of what you've been hinting at for a stock?

I'm on the fence when it comes to the whole M305 thing. I found one with a USGI stock for sale but.. I'm intrigued to see what you're talking about.

Depending on what you're offering I might do my own project fro scratch with your stock...

Hints?
 
Dimitri said:
According to the US State Department Regulations as well its 500$ looked it up once its in Sec123.16 (Exemptions Relating to Canada).



Section 123.17 is the General Regluations for every country in the world but as posted above Canada gets a special 500$ limit.



:)

Dimitri
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Are you sure that what you describe doesn't just involve approved end-user, government type ? I've tried to look around and that's all that i've seen... And frankly, I gave up when trying to find any regulation about value limit whatsoever for a peon like me.
 
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