Mcmillan vs HS Precision stocks

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Im thinking of replaceing my stock, any pros , cons on these two stock companies and their products ?I'm going with a tactical adj.lop and adj.cheek :nest:
 
I have both stocks. Both are great stocks. The H-S does not require bedding due to the aluminum bedding block, where as the McMillan should be bedded for best accuracy. I also believe the H-S is a bit heavier stock
(probably due to the bedding block). I also think that the H-S stocks are less expensive than the McMillan (HTR stock vs. A5), but may be harder to find.
 
I have the H-S stock on my savage 10 fcp and love it! Only complaint is that the sling swivels are not really to solid. I put some locktight on mine though and all seems well.
 
I have 2 H-S rifles (HTR and STR), like their stocks but as was just mentioned, the studs were all loose. Also had H-S stocks in the past with the same problem. I generated a thread about this very topic a while back. Also,the two studs in front that are supposed to accomodate a bipod and a sling are too close together. I also have a McMillan A-5 on a custom Remington and in my opinion there is no comparison. I ordered it directly from McMillan to the specs I requested. The A-5 is the most comfortable stock I have used and it came exactly as ordered. H-S make good stocks but for the price you pay, you should not have to deal with loose swivel studs or studs too close. I actually call H-S last year and spoke to a guy named Donny. I told him about the studs being too close and he took a Harris bipod for what he said it was meant for and confirmed they were too close. How this happens I don't know. Do they test it first, I don't know but they haven't changed the spacing on the studs. In my opinion there is no comparison, a H-S is a good stock but a McMillan is that much better, especially when you can custom order it to your specifications.
 
I really like Ramline. They are super flexible and the inletting is so loose you can use remingtons or winchester actions. They also have that quality "melted milk jugs poured into a hand carved mold look". The best part is you can buy ten or eleven of them for the price of a mcmillan. Who needs a stock built by a craftsman when you can have one poured out of a slurpee machine?

#1) Ramline
#2) Mcmillan
#3) Robertson
#4) Manners
#5) H-S

2,3,4,5 are all very close but the Ramline is far superior.


Brenden
 
I had to get a custom sling swivel made on my HS stock after I snapped two swivel studs with my bipod which was properly attached. The studs screw into the aluminum block but there is a space with no threading.. I guess with the recoil that space was enough to allow some bending movement in the studs until they snapped..
 
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Merllin said:
I have an HS and I have had no problems... Studs are spaced ok and its solid...
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Were you using a harris bipod mounted on the fwd stud, which according to H-S is what they designed it for. The bipod attaches fine to the front stud but try to attach a sling swivel to the rear stud, they are a bit too close to work properly. You can force it but it doesn't move freely. Also all the H-S Stocks I have used had loose swivel studs. Subtle issues like this should not be an issue considering the price you pay. McMillan is no comparison, the best in the business in my opinion. Order a stock and you choose the options which are endless, outstanding customer service as well. I have an A-5 and it is the most comfortable stock I have used.
 
Yep, Harris style bipod on the front stud... works for me. I'm not knocking McMillan or what not, I would gladly take an A-5. Just saying the HS has given me no problems..
 
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Yep, Harris style bipod on the front stud... works for me. I'm not knocking McMillan or what not, I would gladly take an A-5. Just saying the HS has given me no problems..
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If your in the Edmonton area, I will gladly show you what I am talking about, a picture is worth a thousand words. I am going to Genessee on Thursday and Sunday, if you're out there, we can link up.
 
I had a versapod mounted in the fwd swivel..

I'm not reffering to the spacing between studs, but in the studs themselves.

If you unscrew a swivel stud on an HS stock (LTR in my case) and look inside

you will notice the aluminum threads inside then a quarter/half inch space between the threads and the outside of the stock..

What happened to me was that the space provided enough "wiggle" room for the stud allowing for it to react to recoil laterally and eventually snapped the stud... TWICE.

Rather than send in the stock though and wait forever I had my local gunsmith make a reinforced swivel stud in the stock and it is a tank now, He machined a reinforced female stud reciever in the stock and made an extra thick (like three times the diameter) stud that screws in but has the same swivel head shape outside the stock.. It is great

So, I don't know if what I experienced is endemic in HS stocks, but with my versapod, no matter how tough I screwed it on, I was busting studs with almost every visit to the range.

I have a 700 5R mispec coming in the mail right now and it also has an HS stock. The only difference that I will do with this one is buy a harris bipod for it.

I don't necessarily blame the stock on my rifle because I don't know if it was an anomoly with the stock or a problem with the bipod. From what I can see it was the stock that was causing the breaks in the studs. The diameter of the swivel stud hole before it met the threading was too wide and allowed for movement under recoil of the stud.

I hope you guys know what I mean. Kind of hard to explain without pictures.

I think it was a combination of the swivel stud hole in the stock and the mounting system with the versapod.

This is a .308 rifle so the recoil really isn't that bad.
 
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If your in the Edmonton area, I will gladly show you what I am talking about, a picture is worth a thousand words. I am going to Genessee on Thursday and Sunday, if you're out there, we can link up.
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Actually.. I think I know what you are talking about now... I just wasn't paying attention because I hooked the front swivel stud to the bipod and not to the rear sitting swivel stud. I can see what you mean, how the swivel would be a pain to move if you did fit it in there....
 
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