Message from CCFR / C-71 & Minister Blair's Mandate Letter

[crisis]

Everyone at the table is talking about everything but the truth: There is no room for the lawful ownership of firearms in the leftist utopia.

There is plenty of room for criminals there (heck, criminal culture and leftists go hand-in-hand), and until it is stated as plainly as a Trump would; this garbage is going to continue.


Everywhere the leftists take over, the first thing they do is disarm the public (specifically, the 'un-enlightened' depolrables).

I don't know which leftist utopia's you refer to. All the anarchists/hard leftists I know believe in managing your own security (ie firearm ownership and the right to it, the right to defend yourself against people who would do you ill) which is a shared value with libertarians, and distrust the government on this as much as you do.
As for "Criminal culture and leftists go hand in hand".... I'm sure you're trying to draw parallels between leftists and crime but there is no such data, crime is pretty universal over political stripes. I don't think anyone would want a "real criminal" (ie rapist, murderer, thief, other violent folks) in their utopia, no matter where you fall on the political spectrum. Trudeau isn't a leftist, he just parades as one. He's as center as they come.

 

[anton520b]

It’s purposely vague. For them it will be anything scary and black.

If the black is what they fear, let's paint all our firearms in FDE, ODG, Urban grey, blue, camo and so on. Maybe they will exempt those "non-scary" looking firearms and leave us sports shooters alone.

 

[Pumpjack]

I don't know which leftist utopia's you refer to. All the anarchists/hard leftists I know believe in managing your own security (ie firearm ownership and the right to it, the right to defend yourself against people who would do you ill) which is a shared value with libertarians, and distrust the government on this as much as you do.
As for "Criminal culture and leftists go hand in hand".... I'm sure you're trying to draw parallels between leftists and crime but there is no such data, crime is pretty universal over political stripes. I don't think anyone would want a "real criminal" (ie rapist, murderer, thief, other violent folks) in their utopia, no matter where you fall on the political spectrum. Trudeau isn't a leftist, he just parades as one. He's as center as they come.

Anarchists aren't hard leftists, they are advocates of no government, zero! There is a huge difference. My brother who happens to be a leftist and a lawyer is very anti gun as are all his friends. Both JT and his old man are admitted Fabian socialists and Lenin himself stated that socialism is just a soft word for communism. Now tell us how Lenin was a centrist and pro gun for the people? It's still pretty early in the day to start drinking isn't it?

 

[Flash]

I don't know which leftist utopia's you refer to. All the anarchists/hard leftists I know believe in managing your own security (ie firearm ownership and the right to it, the right to defend yourself against people who would do you ill) which is a shared value with libertarians, and distrust the government on this as much as you do.
As for "Criminal culture and leftists go hand in hand".... I'm sure you're trying to draw parallels between leftists and crime but there is no such data, crime is pretty universal over political stripes. I don't think anyone would want a "real criminal" (ie rapist, murderer, thief, other violent folks) in their utopia, no matter where you fall on the political spectrum. Trudeau isn't a leftist, he just parades as one. He's as center as they come.

You're either completely clueless or full of shyt. All leftists want only the state to have arms. All. Otherwise, regular folks can defend themselves against state tyranny, and leftists cannot allow that.

Armed people can defend against state agents who stick guns in our bellies to demand we hand over our money and property, because the state knows what's best and who's more deserving of the rewards of our labour.

Thieves for example, are leftists. Robin Hood was the original socialist.

 

[DaveMachine]

I was talking to a guy from the Czech Republic a month back and maybe we should suggest to have the same firearms licensing as they have. I for one believe it would be ideal and save money/lives/our hobby. Such as:

-Certified number of hours with an instructor and supervised hands on certified range time.
-Psychological assessment with a psychologist.
-Background check.
-References.

Just a thought.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Czech-Republic/United-States/Crime

Not a completely terrible idea but I don't think it really translates over to a country the size of Canada. I imagine trying to make an appointment with a psychologist for northern/rural residents would be extremely impractical.

 

[kavemanx39]

Face time

 

[RiMP9]

The last time I checked some government border info regarding gun crimes with illegal guns, they were talking about a shipment of 1100 illegal assault rifles and handguns that were stopped at the Quebec border. And guess what people................. those guns came from the US. Just like the guns used being used in larger cities like Toronto. AND the government wants to spend millions on taking LEGALLY owned from their lawful owners! If only WE the people of Canada could elect responsible gun owners to office to protect our rights. Not likely to happen as we are only left to vote for "The least worst person running for office"

 

[Johnny A1]

If you go on Bullseyelondon's website there is a link that you can go to called "Canada Gun Ban" and you can write a letter to all the Senators and M.P.'s to voice your opinion on this pure discrimination of law abiding tax paying Canadians called Bill C-71. As usual the Liberal government is doing absolutely nothing to stop gang and gun crime in this country!!!

 

[anton520b]

The last time I checked some government border info regarding gun crimes with illegal guns, they were talking about a shipment of 1100 illegal assault rifles and handguns that were stopped at the Quebec border. And guess what people................. those guns came from the US. Just like the guns used being used in larger cities like Toronto. AND the government wants to spend millions on taking LEGALLY owned from their lawful owners! If only WE the people of Canada could elect responsible gun owners to office to protect our rights. Not likely to happen as we are only left to vote for "The least worst person running for office"

The one responsible gun rights and fair gun laws proponent in Maxime Bernier. He founded his own political party called People's Party of Canada, already at 31.000 members and growing daily. His firearm policies are really fair for all gun owners. Join his movement and in doing so you are taking action to benefit all of us. Membership is free, and Maxime Bernier will fight for us all.

 

[SIR VEYOR]

The one responsible gun rights and fair gun laws proponent in Maxime Bernier. He founded his own political party called People's Party of Canada, already at 31.000 members and growing daily. His firearm policies are really fair for all gun owners. Join his movement and in doing so you are taking action to benefit all of us. Membership is free, and Maxime Bernier will fight for us all.

Max couldn’t even show up for a symbolic vote to show his support for gun owners.

I’ll stick with the party who actually worked for 15K gun owners when the RCMP attempted their confiscation. They missed some on their watch, but once awakened, they acted. Now it’s time to see what they’ll do when re-elected. There over 2 million people threatened now.

Max isn’t an option this time. Maybe next time.

 

[hawk-i]

We can make all the noise in the world. ...the Liberals have a majority, they will do as they please.

 

[anton520b]

Max couldn’t even show up for a symbolic vote to show his support for gun owners.

I’ll stick with the party who actually worked for 15K gun owners when the RCMP attempted their confiscation. They missed some on their watch, but once awakened, they acted. Now it’s time to see what they’ll do when re-elected. There over 2 million people threatened now.

Max isn’t an option this time. Maybe next time.

I think you know about Maxime much more than myself lol, maybe I'm supporting a wrong person.

 

[flyinlead]

I think you know about Maxime much more than myself lol, maybe I'm supporting a wrong person.

Sounds like a good guy to support, however strategically it would not be a good idea. In this coming election he will not get close to a minority. Therefore any votes going to him would just take away from the Conservatives chance of winning, which is by far our safest bet. Vote splitting is the term.