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I have noticed some MFS 145 grain sells really cheap, anyone know if there are any drawbacks to this ammo in the m14, the price seems to good to be true.
 
I've found it's a bit dirtier than the pricey stuff, but it's not like you aren't going to clean up afterwards anyways... I like MFS for the m14s quite a bit.
 
Cowboy I put 5 boxes(100 rounds) of MFS 145fmj through my M-14. It cycled great, it seemed similar, at least at one hundred yards over irons, to other ball ammo for accuracy. Two things I did notice. One,... it seemed a tad bit dirtier to shoot. More soot like deposits. And two,.... the velocities seemed to have a wider max spread and SD than other bulk ball and a little slower than average FPS. The Norc ammo Hunter mentioned chrony'd 2804fps average in mine @ 15feet, bang on M-80 ball spec, which I've heard it copies.

To summarize, for banging away at 25 to 100 yds, I'm sure it's ok. The tad lower velocities and wider velocity spread I noticed, may show up alot more pass 300 yards. It is the cheapest non-corrosive around my area by the 20 round box. $12.95 versus $14.00 for norc. I still have a couple boxes so I'll try to do a bench rest comparison again and ensure the velocities are the same, and not just I had a bad chrony day.
 
All MFS users rember that they are laquer covered. So this means over time laquer deposit's will build up on your chamber. No biggy though. Just grab your brass M14 chamber brush and dipp it in some laquer thinner and give it a good scrub after a while to remove the build up so you don't get a stuck shell in the chamber. Plus remeber to scrub your bolt face clean cause the same idea applies here to but with the red paint instead of the clear one.
 
All MFS users rember that they are laquer covered.
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I don't think the MFS I purchased had any lacquer. It is zinc plated. It tends to leave a red deposit over the bolt and magwell area.
The chamber was left a little more dirty than other factory brands, but not too bad. I have shot ~ 500 rds of MFS and another 500 rds of Ruag which I believe is identical.
 
I've shot several hundred rounds of MFS in 7.62x54R in 205grain soft points. I found it to shoot quit consistent. I didn't find it dirty at all, but clean my rifles after i use them so it wouldn't matter anyway.
 
I find the .223 MFS to be a little dirty and causes much more "sparks" or burning powder coming out the end of the muzzle. other than that its cheap, goes bang and lands where i point it
 
If you like MFS, I see Wanstall's has a special on 500rounds for $89.00. Not sure their shipping cost's etc, usually I find I can pick it up local($12.95) as cheap as buying bulk because of shipping costs, so support your local seller.

Another thing about MFS if anyone here'e been shooting a long time, I find the smell of the discharge reminds me of old S&B shotgun ammo I used to shoot in the 1970's, a particular sulfur/pepper smell. Always wondered what they(MFS) used for powder, and if they are controlling the burn rate with lots of graphite, hence the large amount of sooty fouling and rancid smell. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
RememberTheSomme said:
If you like MFS, I see Wanstall's has a special on 500rounds for $89.00. Not sure their shipping cost's etc, usually I find I can pick it up local($12.95) as cheap as buying bulk because of shipping costs, so support your local seller.

Another thing about MFS if anyone here'e been shooting a long time, I find the smell of the discharge reminds me of old S&B shotgun ammo I used to shoot in the 1970's, a particular sulfur/pepper smell. Always wondered what they(MFS) used for powder, and if they are controlling the burn rate with lots of graphite, hence the large amount of sooty fouling and rancid smell. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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I noticed last time i was out that the MFS .223 ammo i have reminds me of the smell of the surplus czech 7.62x39 from the 80's
 
I like the lacquer comment lol
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MFS is a Hungarian company that has been producing ammunition since the 1950s. Their goal is to provide high quality ammunition to hunters and shooters. The unique Zn (Zinc) plated cases help protect against corrosion, aids in extraction, reduces camber wear and does not use any lacquer or polymer coatings that can gum up your action. This ammunition is new production, berdan primed for long shelf life and fully non-corrosive. Ships 20 rds per box and 50 boxes per case of 1000 rds.
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ht tp://www.weaponsworld.com/mfs-ammunition-223-remington-55-grain-full-metal-jacket-zinc-plated-steel-case-case-of-1000-50-boxes-of-20.html
-from 223 product page as most of the lacquer concerns have been with ARs
The red primer sealant may or may not be lacquer- I don't know, I just know its' visible around the action after shooting MFS ammo any amount.
 
I have used the MFS at 100 yards and at 300 yards. At 100 it was fine. Shot a 2' group out of my M4.

At 300, using a bolt rifle (Savage) with a good scope, about 30% of the rounds were bad flyers. No good for this purpose.
 
Ganderite said:
I have used the MFS at 100 yards and at 300 yards. At 100 it was fine. Shot a 2' group out of my M4.

At 300, using a bolt rifle (Savage) with a good scope, about 30% of the rounds were bad flyers. No good for this purpose.
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Exactly what I figured would happen based on the extreme spread on velocity as tested in my M-14.

Anyone who has worked up loads to full power 0.5 grains at a time and covered 3 to 4 grains in 5 round groups at one range visit, will know that at 100 yards in a very accurate rifle(.75-1MOA),...all rounds can still be sitting in a 2-3 inch group.

Move your target out to 300 yards ,....and watch that 3MOA at 100yds from 4 grain total change and a couple of hundred feet of MV increase, start to fall to crap and open up to 15- 20 inch groups(5-7MOA) instead of theoretical 9MOA, all because the MOA increase at 100yards(where most bang away;) with their bulk ammo) is due more to velocity than rifle's inherent accuracy alone.
 
I haven't yet found a better hunting cartridge than the 125g soft point MFS for my cz858

I get that MFS cartridge OAL is all over the map, along with the propellant weight charges, but for 100 yards and less there is no vertical stringing or fliers that I can see.

This is still the only ammo for my 858 that can make true touching groups at 50 yards, all of the other stuff (except reloads) tend to make 3/4 inch swiss cheese groups.

It's the same in the M305, don't use this stuff past 100 yards and you're good. Every time I shoot it at 200 yards there's always one bullet that goes 4 inches away from the group. I think it does that just to mock the oal of my manhood :( Damn russians
 
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I haven't yet found a better hunting cartridge than the 125g soft point MFS for my cz858

I get that MFS cartridge OAL is all over the map, along with the propellant weight charges, but for 100 yards and less there is no vertical stringing or fliers that I can see.

This is still the only ammo for my 858 that can make true touching groups at 50 yards, all of the other stuff (except reloads) tend to make 3/4 inch swiss cheese groups.

It's the same in the M305, don't use this stuff past 100 yards and you're good. Every time I shoot it at 200 yards there's always one bullet that goes 4 inches away from the group. I think it does that just to mock the oal of my manhood :( Damn russians
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But if we only shoot 100 yards or less, doesn't it become pistol fire????:D
 
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