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juliann815

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I am from Michigan but in Love with a Canadian(FenderStrat). I have a Lady Smith, Sig 228, and German Luger in the States and in Ontario I have Sig 226 copy by Norinco. I love the outdoors, shooting, riding my horse in the great outdoors. I love being an equestrian trail rider. I am manager of an ambulance company and work as a Forensic Trauma Nurse.
Love to learn more about Canadian laws and how they work. I want to get to know people on the group. Thanks for allowing me to be a part. :dancingbanana:

Juli
 
new from Michigan

I shoot 9mm target and rodent control on the farm. I do belong to Burlington Rifle & Revolver club. Always looking for pointers to improve the game.
Juli
 
Michigander is male, Michigandian is female. FenderStrat is a lucky guy!

Stop me if you already know any of this. Our gun laws are ALL federal, administered by the provinces. There is some wiggly room on the application of those federal words. Certain provinces have different local situations that mean they will apply the letter of the law, and then some. We have a national gun registry which cost a couple billion dollars and is widely reviled. Every person who wants to own firearms must have a card in his/her pocket that tells the rest of the world that person has signed a form, taken a course or at least passed a test, and has had their eligiblity blessed by a bureaucrat. Handguns and certain rifles need transport permits to go to approved shooting ranges. And, self-defence is not legitimate grounds for ownership.
 
I am in love with you too my sweet...Love that luger and even though it is a relatively large pistol it is a 12/6er because of the barrel..Go figure
 
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maple_leaf_eh said:
Michigander is male, Michigandian is female. FenderStrat is a lucky guy!

Stop me if you already know any of this. Our gun laws are ALL federal, administered by the provinces. There is some wiggly room on the application of those federal words. Certain provinces have different local situations that mean they will apply the letter of the law, and then some. We have a national gun registry which cost a couple billion dollars and is widely reviled. Every person who wants to own firearms must have a card in his/her pocket that tells the rest of the world that person has signed a form, taken a course or at least passed a test, and has had their eligiblity blessed by a bureaucrat. Handguns and certain rifles need transport permits to go to approved shooting ranges. And, self-defence is not legitimate grounds for ownership.
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The term Federal is bound by many interpretations, is it by case law or by written law? Which one overrides the other?
I do have a PAL and have applied to have ATT which has been a long time coming. I predict I need to wait a bit till CFA has time to read each word on my application.
I want to be able to shoot at the club like everyone else does.
Juli
 
Welcome aboard! :D
You live in a beautiful state with a great outdoors heritage.
Growing up in Windsor, I spent a lot of time over there, as I had many relatives on that side (though now, most have moved to other states).
Welcome to the site and welcome too to the sport!
 
juliann815 said:
The term Federal is bound by many interpretations, is it by case law or by written law? Which one overrides the other?
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My civics are a bit rusty but here goes. The source of all laws is the Crown, who is Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II (... long may she reign o-ver us, God Save the Queen!) whose representative is the Governor General of Canada. The last few have been women so, she signs all bills into law. In theory breaking the law, offends Her Majesty.

Under the Constitution Act of 1982 (yes within our lifetimes), the Provinces are much weaker than States. Education, health, welfare, mining and minerals, wildlife and a dozen other jurisdictions are provincial. Defence, agriculture, taxation, fisheries, labour, currency, communications, and anything not given to the provinces is reserved for the feds.

The basic document is the act itself and its regulations which actually put the intent of Parliament into words. Firearms fall under the Criminal Code of Canada, and the provinces are charged with applying it.

There are many federal matters that the provinces are sort-of paid to administer, justice in particular. So, Federal Court is for a very narrow group of issues. Although precidence and common law are the norm, the way the laws are written if a case rules against an act, case law predominates. If an accused's lawyer is any good, he'll have a good grasp on all relevant precidents.
 
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maple_leaf_eh said:
My civics are a bit rusty but here goes. The source of all laws is the Crown, who is Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II (... long may she reign o-ver us, God Save the Queen!) whose representative is the Governor General of Canada. The last few have been women so, she signs all bills into law. In theory breaking the law, offends Her Majesty.

Under the Constitution Act of 1982 (yes within our lifetimes), the Provinces are much weaker than States. Education, health, welfare, mining and minerals, wildlife and a dozen other jurisdictions are provincial. Defence, agriculture, taxation, fisheries, labour, currency, communications, and anything not given to the provinces is reserved for the feds.

The basic document is the act itself and its regulations which actually put the intent of Parliament into words. Firearms fall under the Criminal Code of Canada, and the provinces are charged with applying it.

There are many federal matters that the provinces are sort-of paid to administer, justice in particular. So, Federal Court is for a very narrow group of issues. Although precidence and common law are the norm, the way the laws are written if a case rules against an act, case law predominates. If an accused's lawyer is any good, he'll have a good grasp on all relevant precidents.
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Every law can be defended differently it depends how smart the defense attorney is. Correct?
 
juliann815 said:
Every law can be defended differently it depends how smart the defense attorney is. Correct?
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Yes, and defence is spelt with a 'c' in Canada. Another amateur civics lesson - someone stop me if I'm out of line.

An accused has a choice of trial by judge or jury for certain crimes, depending on the severity and efficiency. A lot of charges go to summary trial and are over and done with quickly. The Crown Prosecutor will have shown all his evidence in discoveries. Nothing new can be brought into evidence during the trial. It is up to the Defence Lawyer to prove that his learned colleague is full of it and erroniously blowing smoke up His Honour's backside to get an acquital. But since the judges are nothing more than lawyers friendly to the government (appointed judges, not elected), chances are good that the accused will be found guilty.

Here are some of the difficulties: there aren't a lot of recognized expert witnesses in Canada; the small town law offices don't often know how to find those who are available; justice is not cheap; the way the courts are dispersed across the country, it can be hard to know what cases are going to trial; and there is a common attitude that an accused wouldn't be in court if there wasn't sufficient evidence from the police to gain a conviction.
 
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