Mil. 5.56 Ammo ID
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IVI is the principle supplier of CF's ammo. At various times, IVI has had lots sold on the commercial market. On at least one occation, a lot of ammo was declared surplus and sold due to poor QC that left the steel core off center in some rounds (IIRC).
It could be military ammo, or surplus.
It could be military ammo, or surplus.
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Got a picture of the box? There was some commercial IVI Ammo available, I've seen it, 9MM anyways, in 50 rounds per brown box.
.45colt said:
Neither. SS109 is a bullet type, M855 is a cartridge. The SS109 type bullet is 62gr w/ a steel and lead core. It is found in both M855 and C77 ball ammo, among others.
So the direct answer is neither, as it is C77 ball ammo.
Not in this case; both "SS109" and M855 have steel cores. Safe bet if it's 62gr bullet and military, it's steel cored. Winchester loads a 62 gr lead core round, but you won't find that in a military load.
The packaging indicates it is commercially packed ammo; CF packaging is 30 rounds on Thermold clips in a brown paper box, with markings like you would find on the outside of a metal ammo can (caliber, cartridge designation, lot number, etc) in military-ese.
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Do some digging and you'll find that, this lot of ammo was rejected by CF, and surplused to the US Market. And yes, issued C77 was in 30 round boxes on SC's, and bandoliers, not 20 round boxes.
This is my .02
This is my .02
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M855 is the US version of the SS109 type bullet, loaded to US Military specs, which are different than NATO spec (very similiar though). The M855 is designated to be used in A2 type rifles with 1:9 twist. The bullet has a painted green tip to designate it as such.
C77 is the Canadian NATO spec ammo using the similiar SS109 type bullet with a steel penetrator core.
C77 is the Canadian NATO spec ammo using the similiar SS109 type bullet with a steel penetrator core.
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recce said:
I belived it was marked so that you wouldn't shoot it through your 1 in 12 twist barrel. It 62gr. painted vs 55gr not painted, and you'll also notice that only the military ammo has these markings, just as an example Winchester USA brand 62gr. no markings.
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Q. What is SS-109? Is it the same as M855?
SS-109 is Fabrique Nationale's (FN's) name for their 61.5 grain bullet with the steel penetrator in the nose and what they call rounds loaded with this bullet. (FN calls M193-type ammo "SS-92.") The US military's M855 round is loaded with the SS-109 bullet, though the US military has additional specifications that ammo must meet before it can be called M855. So, while all M855 is loaded with SS-109 bullets, all "SS-109 ammo" will not meet the M855 specs. For example, the British purposely underloaded some lots of their ammo in an effort to get their L85A1 (SA80) rifles to cycle properly. The ammo is still loaded with SS-109 bullets and labeled as SS-109, but it is nowhere near the M855 velocity specifications.
http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#ss109
Q. What is SS-109? Is it the same as M855?
SS-109 is Fabrique Nationale's (FN's) name for their 61.5 grain bullet with the steel penetrator in the nose and what they call rounds loaded with this bullet. (FN calls M193-type ammo "SS-92.") The US military's M855 round is loaded with the SS-109 bullet, though the US military has additional specifications that ammo must meet before it can be called M855. So, while all M855 is loaded with SS-109 bullets, all "SS-109 ammo" will not meet the M855 specs. For example, the British purposely underloaded some lots of their ammo in an effort to get their L85A1 (SA80) rifles to cycle properly. The ammo is still loaded with SS-109 bullets and labeled as SS-109, but it is nowhere near the M855 velocity specifications.
http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#ss109
