Mil-Dot scope on a 22LR..... is it of any use/advantage?

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I am looking to pick up a CZ 452 American in 22LR soon, and was wondering what everybody here thinks about having a mil-dot scope on a 22LR rifle. On all the rimfires I've owned in the past, I used mil-dot scopes, but never really had them long enough to learn how to use the scope for ranging/wind doping (proper terminology?). I would learn how to use it this time around if I were to buy one.

Considering a 22LR is only really accurate within 100 yds..... (most shooting being done at 50 yards) is there any benefit to using a mil-dot scope, or would a normal crosshair be just as useful?

If it is of any help, I am just looking at the Bushnell Banner line.... nothing expensive.
 
Really it comes down to what you prefer. I prefer shooting with mil-dot reticles, and it has nothing to do about pretending Im a sniper :D

I've got a Tasco Varmint scope with a mildot on my Savage Mark II because I can use the mils when hunting to adjust my shots due to wind or distance without worrying about touching the knobs. I've also got a Bushnell Banner with mildot on my Remington 700 but that one is actually put to use for wind and distance.
 
CanuckShooter said:
Considering a 22LR is only really accurate within 100 yds..... (most shooting being done at 50 yards) is there any benefit to using a mil-dot scope, or would a normal crosshair be just as useful?
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I'm using a BSA sweet .22 with mil dots. I don't use the dots properly to estimate range, but I have figured out which dots to use to compensate for drop out to 200 yards. I can find a 6" gong with my 10/22 at 200 yards about 50% of the time (30% are misses, the other 20% is FTE).
 
I think mildot scopes are a blast on a .22 rifle. You would be surprised how easy you can hit a 8" gong at 200 meters once you get your mils figured out(gusty wind excluded!).

The little slugs drop very quick past 100....something to the order of 4 or 5 feet at 200 meters.
 
+1 for using mil-dots on a .22lr Between that and a drop chart from JBM ballistics, I have pretty decent luck out to a solid 140yard on gophers. As redneck says, it is even handier for windage.

The thing I like about using mildots is it gives me more conscientious practice. I can try to range a target, check holdover, aim fire and compensate if nec. Forces a guy to think a little more. *shrug*


If you are interested, check out JBM ballistics and it will give you a pretty decent idea of mil-dot use for hold over. Using winchester super X ammo, JBM shows if you are dead on a 75 yards you'll be 1mil hold over a 100yards and about 2mil at 125. 3 mil will get you out to 145 and 4 mil is around the 165 yard mark. A 10 mph wind means a 1 mil hold off for the first 75yards, this increases to about 2mil @ 145.
 
I have a tasco varmint 6x24 millidot on my Marlin 81 made in 1940. It is the greatest as I can lift up to 4 millidots off dead on at 100 yards and shoot out to 200 yards quite successfully. Gophers stand quite tall in the scope and present a seemingly larger target, plus you can see them fall.
 
Get two guns one with a mil dot and one with red dot :D

I like the red dot at 50-100 yrds
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I have a cz 452 varmint with a bushnell 3200 fixed 10X Tactical. I really like the target turrets because of the ease when dialing it it. I usually keep it zeroed at 100 and I just memorize what it takes to dial it for 200. The dots are handy for hold over, you just need to remember which one to use for what distance.
 
Considering a 22LR is only really accurate within 100 yds.....
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What makes you think .22 rf is only good for 100 yds? Spend a bit of time reading this forum and you will find guys routinely using this cartridge to 200 yds and beyond.

MIL dot scopes are excellent for field shooting because they allow fast and accurate range and windage corrections without having to dial the turrets. An important factor when shooting large numbers of varmints at varying ranges.
 
22's are very useful within a range at which they have considerable drop. The mildots or even tactical elevation knobs provides a consistent reference point for compensating.
 
I think an A/O is more important on a .22 then anything else. I have a few outfitted with mildot scopes with A/O. I find the crosshairs finer in a mildot then most standard duplex scopes, which is why i prefer them.
 
Suputin said:
What makes you think .22 rf is only good for 100 yds? Spend a bit of time reading this forum and you will find guys routinely using this cartridge to 200 yds and beyond.
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He never said they were ONLY good for 100 yards, he said "only really accurate within 100 yds". Most standard .22LR's do some crazy flying and dropping past 100 yards.

BigBadBlair said:
+1 for an Adjustable Objective for rimfire
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+2 for the AO! Once I picked up the Tasco Varmint, my groupings changed drastically for the better. :D
 
I'm using a Reupold (knockoff LR/T Mark4 M1 made by Kommunist Zhinese) scope on top of my CZ452 Style (I'm a synthetic stock geek) and it's always zeroed for 50m.

It just so happens to have mildots, but I never use them until I shoot at 100m, then I use the next dot by the reticle or thereabouts....:rolleyes:

I love this scope because it's got the side focus (no need for that parallax adjustment on the objective bell) just like my Falcon Menace scopes on my sniper rigs...

Extra cool factor for the girls I go out with! :D

:cheers:

Barney
 
Hungry said:
I'm using a Reupold (knockoff LR/T Mark4 M1 made by Kommunist Zhinese) scope on top of my CZ452 Style (I'm a synthetic stock geek) and it's always zeroed for 50m.

It just so happens to have mildots, but I never use them until I shoot at 100m, then I use the next dot by the reticle or thereabouts....:rolleyes:

I love this scope because it's got the side focus (no need for that parallax adjustment on the objective bell) just like my Falcon Menace scopes on my sniper rigs...

Extra cool factor for the girls I go out with! :D

:cheers:

Barney
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Yeah Im thinking of going Falcon for my next scope when Ive got some more play money, Id prefer the side focus rather than having to turn the bell. :(
 
AO is pretty much mandatory on a rimfire scope in my opinion. Especially for shooting paper.
 
He never said they were ONLY good for 100 yards, he said "only really accurate within 100 yds". Most standard .22LR's do some crazy flying and dropping past 100 yards.
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Drop and inaccuracy are two completely different things. The bullet can drop a lot at long range and still produce quite accurate (small) groups. I have killed gophers at 150-170 yds with a single shot so accuracy is clearly not a problem. Drop is simply a question of compensating for that distance and so not really all that big a deal either.
 
Thanks for all the great advice do far guys. Mil-dot it is, and I am definitely getting a scope with AO since it's for rimfire. Now i just have to decide on a scope for around $200ish, thought I have a feeling I'll be going with the Bushnell Banner 6-24x40.

Anyone have any opinions on the Mueller Tactical 8.5-25x42? I had one super briefly a few years ago which I never even got to try at the range. The Mueller is $275 I think, and the Banner is $170. Anyone tried both side by side that can vouch for whether or not the Mueller Tactical is worth the extra $100? Seems like 8.5x as the lowest magnification might be a bit high... no?

Thanks again
 
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