Military pistol designed to work in grueling Afghanistan terrain now available to U.S

[mebiuspower]

i would only buy it if I came I black and if you can change those stupid vertec grips out

Well Beretta has finally comes to term that the 92FS has a table leg grip.

 

[Mark-II]

So it doesn't jam up in the desert.

Lol. Circular logic. Love it

 

[Mark-II]

Must resist....must not make joke....

Go for it. If it wasn't for the man humour, this site would be dull

 

[yohann160]

So does that mean we are no longer following the hague convention?

Hague Convention doesn't prohibit using expanding rounds per se. It prohibits weapons and projectiles who's modification and use would create excessive/needless/superfluous injuries and suffering. A rusty serrated bayonet, for example.

And lettuce b. cereal, 25mm HE is routinely used to neutralize human targets and people seriously take offense at HP pistol bullets? A little perspective please.

 

[Hornychief]

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that I remember reading about the US military not renewing the beretta contract. This was their pitch to em.

Make sense why pistol engined for military operating conditions would be available to civilians but again I could be wong

 

[Still alive]

"Designed to fire hollow points" I hope they realize a majority of military application they use ball.

How is it actually specially designed to fire HPs? The 92 has a straight feed into the chamber from the mag. I think my FS from the 80s is specially designed for HPs too! Will it fetch more on the EE??

 

[r34skyline]

Hague Convention doesn't prohibit using expanding rounds per se. It prohibits weapons and projectiles who's modification and use would create excessive/needless/superfluous injuries and suffering. A rusty serrated bayonet, for example.

And lettuce b. cereal, 25mm HE is routinely used to neutralize human targets and people seriously take offense at HP pistol bullets? A little perspective please.

I never said it made sense, I was just trying to understand the details. I was under the impression that the hague convention prevented most nations from rocking hp ammo, of course some counter terror ops already run hp and have been for a while.

How is it actually specially designed to fire HPs? The 92 has a straight feed into the chamber from the mag. I think my FS from the 80s is specially designed for HPs too! Will it fetch more on the EE??

Ask the idiot that wrote the article not me. I suspect it sounds scary so they put more bs in there.

 

[yohann160]

I never said it made sense, I was just trying to understand the details. I was under the impression that the hague convention prevented most nations from rocking hp ammo, of course some counter terror ops already run hp and have been for a while.

Some DMR and sniper specific rifle bullets are HP and already in use by US Forces. Hague Convention restricts modifiying weapons and projectiles under field conditions that have the specific intent of creating superfluous wounds and injuries. You cannot use a knife to cut X's into bullet tips for example.

 

[Craig0ry]

I like it, might get added to my wish list

 

[Wolf@TS]

Hague Convention doesn't prohibit using expanding rounds per se. It prohibits weapons and projectiles who's modification and use would create excessive/needless/superfluous injuries and suffering. A rusty serrated bayonet, for example.

Actually, that's exactly what it prohibits.

The Contracting Parties agree to abstain from the use of bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core or is pierced with incisions.
The present Declaration is only binding for the Contracting Powers in the case of a war between two or more of them.
It shall cease to be binding from the time when, in a war between the Contracting Powers, one of the belligerents is joined by a non-Contracting Power.

The catch it that it only applies to Contracting Parties....ISIS missed the memo. LOL

 

[Alpheus]

Some DMR and sniper specific rifle bullets are HP and already in use by US Forces. Hague Convention restricts modifiying weapons and projectiles under field conditions that have the specific intent of creating superfluous wounds and injuries. You cannot use a knife to cut X's into bullet tips for example.

You are referring to the use of the Sierra Matchking boat-tail hollowpoint in military ammunition. Expanding bullets are forbidden under the Hague Convention, but the SMK was determined by the US to be a non-expanding hollowpoint, and therefore legal to use. http://www.thegunzone.com/opentip-ammo.html