Military replacement stock

Salut Père Bleu! Tu m'as trouvé :D

A few folks here are well versed in Ross matters. Parts will be difficult to find. Full length stocks are unobtanium, but a few have converted sportered stocks back to military length by splicing and glueing; some good results were seen here. What model of Ross did you end up with?

For the Mauser... well that's out of my comfort zone (you know that) but others will chime in, no doubt...

Lou
 
:) Hi Papa Blue,

I love those 71/84's, have two myself and I am spending more and more money on them,
As we speak, I am even starting to cast my own bullets for them now.

There is a guy in the states who makes some nice looking stocks, here is the link:
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=mauser%2071%2F84%20stiock&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flswinds.webs.com%2F7184mauserstocks.htm&ei=cVDKULaKK6W_2QXI4IGwCQ&usg=AFQjCNGqV2Njm3oNzKgSy8g1TqDfS5Htgw

That's the way I would go...
Good luck
 
Hello, Papa Blue!

You sure know how to make an entrance to a forum!

Normally, we can be mean and cruel to Newbies, but you are a friend of Louthepou, so we can't do that to you! Lou is one of everybody's favourite people.

If you can post a picture of that Ross and a picture of the Mauser, we can see how much damage has been done. There are expensive ways to fix things and there are some ways a lot cheaper.

If we can solve your problem cheaply, that's a bonus for all of us because we KNOW that you will take the money that you didn't spend on wood..... and get another rifle.

That way, we ALL have something extra to talk about.

Ammunition for the Ross is standard .303 British; you should be able to find it easy enough. Ammo for the Mauser is the 11.15x60R, which used to be made (in Quebec!) by CIL as the .43 Mauser. The correct load for the .43 Mauser is a 386-grain lead slug with 77 grains of Black gunpowder; a good smokeless loading is the same bullet with 29 grains of SR-4759 powder. The loadd cartridge was last made in 1968. DOMINION (CIL) brass is reloadable easily; if you can't find it, you will have to use the imported brass, which can be terribly expensive.

If you use the SEARCH function in this forum, you will find several threads in which both types of ammunition are discussed. There is a Ross thread from just a couple of days ago with information on loading the .303 and ways to get the longest life from your expensive (half the price of your cartridges) casings.

Rosses can be amazingly accurate. Back before the Great War, between 1908 and 1913, Ross Rifles won every major shooting prize in the British Empire...... almost every year.

The Mauser is a lot of fun to shoot. That big, slow bullet does not have a lot of power by modern standards, but it packs enough inertia to knock down anything smaller than a bulldozer.

You have some Fine Toys!

Welcome aboard, friend!
 
Thanks Smellie, loading-wise for that Mauser, I was clueless!

Père Bleu is indeed a fine fellow, not only because he knows me (I'd rather see it reversed - I consider it a priviledge to be a fellow of his!). He may have a few downsides (like having too many recently-manufactured rifles for caribou hunting...) but his qualities more than compensate :D

Hopefully I'll have the priviledge of trying out his Ross one of these days. As for the Mauser, I suspect finding brass will be the challenge.

lou
 
Lou, I have FOUR .43 Mausers here..... and less than TWO boxes of brass.

Loading dies are available from Lee Precision, about $30 a set through Factory Sales. They work. They are also made by RCBS but a lot more $$$.

I have barely enough brass for a bit of testing, but I want to use one of my Kar 71s as sort of a "handy rifle", the way I did when I was in high school and loaded ammo was $3.65 a box. Besides, it will be a correct "period" piece to go with my car (a 1934 Ford V8), being that I am a Canadian retiree and not an American bank-robber. Besides, I can't afford a 1921 Thompson! (Can't afford to FEED the thing, if you want the truth!)

I have an idea that .458 Winchester brass could be given a shoulder, held centrally in the chamber by Ed's Famous O-Rings and blown OUT to make a Rimless .43 Mauser which will headspace on the shoulder. Only one part will be needed to make this practical: a new Extractor, which is possible to make. A couple of firings with the SR-4759 and I should have workable brass.

BTW, SR-4759 is ALMOST a "bulk" powder but not quite. Charges are light (38 percent of the original Black load is safe in most old rifles and will produce the same velocities AND pressures as Black at that loading level) but the powder itself is reasonably bulky, although the new stuff does not seem as bulky as the tin I bought 50 years ago. But here is a thing about SR-4759: you don't need any pressure or a wad on it at all; the bullet is enough for it to build the right pressure, even though the case may seem only half-full. It is VERY quick.

When I was still in school, I took apart a live DOMINION round of .43 Mauser. It was loaded with some strange PINK powder which looked for all the world like the photograph of LESMOK in Hatcher's Notebook! And there really was not a lot of it, either. And NO wad.

Correct bullet diameter is .446", although the BORE diameter is .433". I had a .457-405HB mould (Lee) which I loaned out to a friend. He promptly fell in love with it for his Martini, so I have to get another. But he did bring me a nice tub of bullets cast from it, lubed and then run through a .446" sizing die that he made in his shop, so it CAN be done without buying one of those $100 moulds. The Lee mould which I started with lists at about $30 from Factory Sales.

Hope this helps.

Let us all know what progress is being made!

Be good to see these old-timers back where they belong: on the range or out in the field.
 
I got new stock for my SVD-40 on a gun show in Burnaby BC. It was brand new the guy that sold me the stock said that he is able to order most military rifle stocks WW1 WW2 and older. I'm not sure if he has a website but he was called corwin guns or somthing
 
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