Military Sidearm.

Was at the gun show here in Calgary and one of the forces guys (they have a booth) let me play with his High Power.

I ask if they still use the old High Powers from the 40's - they roll there eyes and say yes. One of the guys says here - checks for empty and hands it over

Still a nice piece of kit for something thats older than almost anyone on this forum.

D_
 
John, each of our three(!) regular army infantry regiments was maintaining an airborne capable company in each battalion for a while after the public image problems in Somalia. Not sure if this is still the case (any serving members confirm or deny?), but effectively, the Airborne Regiment was disbanded in name only, and the capability is still there... Well, okay... It IS the CF, so we'd probably have to borrow a functioning Hercules from south of the border, and maybe a few parachutes...

;)

Neal
 
nelly said:
John, each of our three(!) regular army infantry regiments was maintaining an airborne capable company in each battalion for a while after the public image problems in Somalia. Not sure if this is still the case (any serving members confirm or deny?), but effectively, the Airborne Regiment was disbanded in name only, and the capability is still there... Well, okay... It IS the CF, so we'd probably have to borrow a functioning Hercules from south of the border, and maybe a few parachutes...

;)

Neal
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Each of the three light infantry battalions (3 PPCLI, 3 RCR, 3 R22eR) maintain a parachute capability comprised of a company plus "all arms" attachments (pathfinder section, mortar troop, engineer section, medics, etc). The Canadian Parachute Centre in Trenton still runs the full gamut of para-related courses, including basic para, military freefall parachutist, parachute instructor, jumpmaster, LZ/DZ controller, patrol pathfinder, etc. If anything, CPC is set to expand with the recent stand-up of the Canadian Special Operations Regiment.

Despite the lack of a para-specific unit in the Canadian Army, airborne operations are alive and well. 2/3 of my current unit (3 PPCLI) are qualified and jump every other month or so to remain current.

And no, we don't have to borrow chutes or aircraft.... :rolleyes:
 
For normal infantry it's pretty much purely the Browning Hi-Power. It's 9mm nato standard, not overly useful for military applications when body armour is becoming so prevalent, you can't use anything but FMJ in the military so stopping power is a concern, i think that military sidearms are going to be moving the way of something like the 5-7/P90 5.7mm cartridges that can penetrate armour, but even then those still aren't perfect since they don't create very big wounds since theres no expansion. The hi powers are garbage too. I used to be a reservist, and I remember range days with the pistols. Not a word of a lie on average for every mag you shot you probably had around 3 stoppages. Normally it's just a failure to feed the new cartridge in cleanly. I think a majority of the problems are due to the magazines.

I think it's an embarrasment. I've heard from some guys who are still in that guys carrying them in Afghanistan don't even carry them with a round chambered becausae it's single action and they don't trust the safeties on them anymore.
 
ace_himself said:
The hi powers are garbage too. I used to be a reservist, and I remember range days with the pistols. Not a word of a lie on average for every mag you shot you probably had around 3 stoppages. Normally it's just a failure to feed the new cartridge in cleanly. I think a majority of the problems are due to the magazines.

I think it's an embarrasment. I've heard from some guys who are still in that guys carrying them in Afghanistan don't even carry them with a round chambered becausae it's single action and they don't trust the safeties on them anymore.
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That's what happens when you leave them in their racks for so long without use and take them out to the range once a year (hmm... like our LSVW ;) . When I had the choice, I would choose the one with the most scratches instead of the cleanest looking BHP.

Also, the #1 cause of stoppages on the BHP is a not firm enough wrist lock.
 
Not to mention the piss poor pistol training they gave us.

"The bullets comes out that end, now point and shoot, BANG, next!"
 
I thought we beat this topic to death allready a few times.

we're using the 60year old Inglis HiPower 9mm

Its not junk and if your using it right and check your mags you will eliminate 99% of the stopages. If you don't (can't) hold it properly (firmly) you will get misfires.

I like the HiPowers, easy to clean not a lot of extra parts, simple and effective.

Now if you suffer from the dreaded I must have the newest shinest kit diease, or I can't hit crap with this pistol it must be the pistols fault disorder, you may not have many good things to say about the HiPowers. :)
 
D_ said:
Was at the gun show here in Calgary and one of the forces guys (they have a booth) let me play with his High Power.

I ask if they still use the old High Powers from the 40's - they roll there eyes and say yes. One of the guys says here - checks for empty and hands it over

Still a nice piece of kit for something thats older than almost anyone on this forum.

D_
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Hey man, the 1911 is still around, ain't it? :redface:
 
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