Military Surplus .308 in bulk

aka-jdub said:
leonidas is flaming this one. either that or he is ignorant of what is happening. i ask that if he knows of better ways speak up or keep it in. reloading 308 ain't cheap and i'd be a old man by the time i saw returns. the only thing imo worth reloading these days is hand gun rounds and even that is marginal.

thanks darrin and i look forward to meeting you.
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I dunno about marginal but I save ALOT of money reloading 1000 rounds than it would cost to buy factory. I reload 147Gr CMJ in 9MM for about 8 per 100 and 45ACP with 230Gr CMJ for 13/100.
 
aka-jdub said:
.....reloading 308 ain't cheap and i'd be a old man by the time i saw returns. the only thing imo worth reloading these days is hand gun rounds and even that is marginal.
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Just starting that myself. A pile of .308 'stuff' coming in.
I will do a price check once I get in all the gear and supplies and figure out what it costs.

Right now I 'think' it should come in @.50 per round (loaded twice). (150gr Hornady FMJ in Winchester brass.)

Cheaper than any surplus and a hell of alot cheaper than New Commercial.
 
Just Wait

Leonidas said:
I guess there is no shortage of suckers out there.
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The suckers are those who wait - the next batch of .308 from Korea is way more costly and the batch after that will be even more.
BUY IT LAST YEAR !!!!
If you cant-
BUY IT NOW!!!
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I still have thousands of rounds of the good stuff (Dominion Arsenal, Lake City, C.B.C., FNM., etc) that I picked up years ago when it was cheap,but its blowin up fast. When the Lieberals get back into power watch the ammo sources dry up.
Ammo is a better investment than gold.Gold has never doubled in value the way ammo does.Trouble is ammo doesnt last.
 
Remember when

scotty said:
I dunno about marginal but I save ALOT of money reloading 1000 rounds than it would cost to buy factory. I reload 147Gr CMJ in 9MM for about 8 per 100 and 45ACP with 230Gr CMJ for 13/100.
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Used to cost me 2 bucks to load .38 when I was into P.P.C. And a box of 50 9mm was 3 bucks. Those days are gone forever.:(
 
ammo will be the next thing on the chopping block so i plan on stocking up while i can.

i would like to know what a 1000 rounds of 308 would run, once you figure press, die's all equipement needed and supplies required. not to mention a room with space that allows you to reload safely.

i don't think 700 bucks will cover it, or even come close but i could be wrong.
 
Norseman said:
Supply and demand ;) Its kinda like how guys in the U.S. can buy Yugo SKS rifles for $120 and up here $400+ Or AK mags for $9 to $12 But yet sell for $50 to $70 up here

Im paying $60 for mags for my SKS-D so I must be a sucker too?

If people don't like the price they don't buy it, if they do, well they must need it. It doesn't make them suckers.
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well than i guess its time to be more responsible consumers and let suppleirs starve for a while till they get the hint, stop giving it to me up the .... jacking up prices because of supply and demand give me a break, how the hell do we expect to increase our numbers when we make it to expansive for the average income individual to afford collecting rifles or shooting sports , fact is im a costumer, consumer and am very insulted by the prices that i see on surplus rifles and ammo and accesseries, im not an idiot i realize that the popularity and demand and the chance to make more money is driving costs up. so go ahead make collecting and shooting an elites hobby sport, and lets set back and watch the anti-firearm group and the government outlaw guns because we havent the numbers to fight them. and yes while we hand in our favorite peices to police to be melted down again dealers will still have made their profit and be laughing to the bank, because they can move on to the next supply and demand trend and fill their pockets again.
i was refered to this site by fellow gun owners who feel its necessary to keep our sport,hobby going, for experience and knowledge but i guess supply and demand are more important:cheers:
 
It is not local suppliers. I believe that Can-Am mentioned in a post that the Czech Republic has just increased its price on surplus 7.62x39 by 250%.

Tell me, do you complain when you get a pay raise? The only reason you have a job, and get that pay raise is because of supply and demand.
 
SandRoad said:
It is not local suppliers. I believe that Can-Am mentioned in a post that the Czech Republic has just increased its price on surplus 7.62x39 by 250%.

Tell me, do you complain when you get a pay raise? The only reason you have a job, and get that pay raise is because of supply and demand.
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no i get a pay raise because i fight tooth and nail and i haven't had a decent raise in a while. so your telling me the high prices is do to where the product originate, if that's the case why than do you see the same product selling at varying prices ranging considerably.
 
accually that is supply & demand. if you boss has a demand for your services and you threaten to quit (ie stop supply) he'll give you a raise. if your boss has no demand for your services, and you threated to quit, he'll accept your resignation.
 
updatelee said:
accually that is supply & demand. if you boss has a demand for your services and you threaten to quit (ie stop supply) he'll give you a raise. if your boss has no demand for your services, and you threated to quit, he'll accept your resignation.
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unfortunates in my profession there is no shortage of demand, well not unless they come up with a cure for every disease or come up with the cure for stupidity. im not complaining i have one of the best jobs in the world(ECNALUBMA) and being a paramedic does not give my infinite knowledge but it teaches one to weed out the bs which is exactly what the price of surplus ammo is. same as the price of gas its bs oil industry has had one of the highest profit margins they have ever had yet oil is in short supply. with all do respect don't piss on my leg then tell me it raining.
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try to find m/s nowadays, its getting rare and pricey. maybe reloading is something i will look into down the road. fwiw, i don't find the price to be a factor in this topic, rather supply.
 
Drae, Actually we can blame govt regulations as well, if there wasn't so much b.s. red tape with importing (Just ask Can Am or any other importer) we would be enjoying cheap surplus ammo just as our American cousins do, and for what its worth, I sold my ammo for what I payed for it.

I too don't like getting hosed either but thats life for us guys in this hobby, :confused:
 
i would still like a member here to break it down for me. i would like to know what it would cost to reload 1000 rounds of .308 starting from scratch. any takers?
 
lets assume you allready have brass, as your reloading.

$15/100 winchester 147gr bullets
$30 for 1lb powder = 7000gr / 35gr = 200 shells filled
$4/100 primers

thats for components. thats $0.35/round

you can get it a little cheaper buy shopping around and buying more in bulk
 
updatelee said:
lets assume you allready have brass, as your reloading.

$15/100 winchester 147gr bullets
$30 for 1lb powder = 7000gr / 35gr = 200 shells filled
$4/100 primers

thats for components. thats $0.35/round

you can get it a little cheaper buy shopping around and buying more in bulk
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$18/100 for Hornady 150gr FMJ
$14 for powder @ 42gr ea. = 166 shells filled
$3 primers

.30 cents a round. :)

Where do you get Winchester 147gr for $15??? and 35gr of powder? Does it go past 100 yards? :)
 
sorry, no assumptions folks. i'm talking press, dies, all components needed etc, brass, primers, powder, bullets...the whole kit and caboodle. how much for 1000 rounds give or take a little? how much time would one spend rolling 1000 rounds. i ask out of ignorance as i have not reloaded, but for shotgun shells and that was 20 years ago. i'm tight and would like to know if it is the way to go is all.
thanks
 
Assyrian said:
$18/100 for Hornady 150gr FMJ
$14 for powder @ 42gr ea. = 166 shells filled
$3 primers

.30 cents a round. :)

Where do you get Winchester 147gr for $15??? and 35gr of powder? Does it go past 100 yards? :)
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relooking and it should have been higher your right. 41.5gr of H4895

7000/41.5 = 169 rounds for $27.99 (wss, I dont know where your getting 1lb for $15)

27.99/169 = 0.17 (thats 2c more then I origonaly guestimated)

wss has win 147 for $15.99 item#167292
 
It may be correct to include the price of the reloading equipment in the equasion--but you also have to assume you will load more than 1000 rounds. I have a single stage RCBS press that I bought 25 years ago for $75.00 -- I have loaded thousands of rounds of ammo on it so I don't really include the amortization of the press (or dies for that matter).

The cost of your time can be an issue if you are giving up time from something else to do the reloading, otherwise it is treated as hobby time by most reloaders.

You can justify reloading or not by how you present the argument. It is really just a matter of what suits you and your goals.

FWIW, 44Bore
 
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