It's easy to judge. I have two friends that are Millwrights and they are loving their jobs as well. The best revenge to all your "enemies" is to live a great life.
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It's easy to judge. I have two friends that are Millwrights and they are loving their jobs as well. The best revenge to all your "enemies" is to live a great life.
I know nobody is trashing millwrights I just thought I should set the record straight. When I did my apprenticeship at NAIT 15 years ago the 1st year millwright and 1st year machinist program was basically the same course. The pre-employment programs are different but the 8 week 1st year program was the same. We shared the machine shop with the machinists. Every day for 8 weeks we machined half a day and the 1st year machinists had the shop the other half. I would say that a millwright has been taught the basics and doesn't just know enough to be dangerous. The vast majority of millwrights I have worked with are fairly proficient on the lathe and milling machine. Just my opinion but like I said a machinist will be a lot farther ahead than a millwright if they wanted to become a gunsmith.
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My son is a tool and dye maker, and in my opinion his aprenticeship was the better of the three (Tool/dye, Millwright or Machinist) because as a Tool/Dye you can do all three cuz you have to learn everything.
I have been a millwright for the past ten years and enjoy going to work everyday, especially payday. If you are serious about gunsmithing, the machinist trade would be the route to take. f you do this go all the way and get your ticket, no one can take that from you. Being a skilled tradesman also allows u to bash and make fun of other skilled tradespeople. For ex gazers(electricians looking at lights all day) or pipefitters/plumbers(all u need to know is cold on the right, hot on the left, #### goes down hill and dont lick your fingers). Whatever path u choose best of luck!
At least we can all agree that welders are retarded.WHAT?!
I thought we WERE trashing Millwrongs here.
All in good fun, of course.
Oh I miss the trade rivalry of missing in a big shop.
Millwright / Heavy Equip tech here.
When I did 1st year millwright, it was 90% the same as machinist 1st year. Maybe not anymore. I have noticed a huge influx of friggen idiots in the trade.. Heck, I think they just give the tickets away now.
My advice is that the Millwright trade will get you started, but a machinist trade will be better for gunsmithing.
But, you have a better chance of making better money in oil / gas with the Millwirght ticket. Any dumb ass teenager these days can run a CNC.
When I did 1st year millwright, it was 90% the same as machinist 1st year. Maybe not anymore. I have noticed a huge influx of friggen idiots in the trade.. Heck, I think they just give the tickets away now.
My advice is that the Millwright trade will get you started, but a machinist trade will be better for gunsmithing.
But, you have a better chance of making better money in oil / gas with the Millwirght ticket. Any dumb ass teenager these days can run a CNC.
I'm taking pre-employment at SIAST, so that is the first year and second year, just no actually work hours. We get considerable theory which the Millwrights don't get, they just get the quick and dirty version. I'm not bashing the Millwright trade, you can make a very good wage doing that. This year at least it seems to have attracted a ton of idiots to the pre-employment class. It's true that any idiot can push a button on a CNC, but if you truely need to set up and operate the machine, programming, etc it takes a lot more smarts then just pushing a button. It's not really my style as I prefer traditional machining, but it entails more then just pushing buttons.
wow you guys are just gettin down right mean, but hears a question for all you "wonderful" machinists who fixes your lathes and mills and grinders and cncs when you break them?????? THE MILLWRIGHTS!!!! But I feel if you want to be a gunsmith then go to the states and go to gunsmithing school and learn the trade, because a machinist isnt a gunsmith. thats my 2 cents.
But I feel if you want to be a gunsmith then go to the states and go to gunsmithing school and learn the trade, because a machinist isnt a gunsmith. thats my 2 cents.My pre-app was for both,but it was long , hard, and very elitist. I choose millwright,more work, better pay. I had worked in a machine shop before my pre-app.A millwright will tell a machinst what he wants. Being a millwright, allows you to pay for the toys.But gunsmithing is much more a machinist skill.
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Getting a tool and die ticket outside of Eastern Canada pretty hard. There are not a lot of tool and die shops when compared with regular machine shops. And you need to be working in one to be an apprentice.
Most trades people have a lot of respect for each other. There is always a lot of light hearted bantering between them. It's part of the job.
The trades people that try to blow smoke up your butt about how they are better than anyone else are usually duds and it doesn't take long for it to show.
The trades people that try to blow smoke up your butt about how they are better than anyone else are usually duds and it doesn't take long for it to show.
I would say machinist training is closer to gunsmithing, because you don't use bigger hammers nearly as often...
Seriously though, no matter what trade training you take, always endeavor to be very good at it.
Many trade skills are conducive to becoming a good gunsmith.
Here's a quick check to see if someone has what it takes- Take a look at their tools. Not what tools they have, but the CONDITION of them, the storage of them. Take a look at their drills and taps. Are they sharp? Are they CLEAN? Or is everything all covered in muck, and half the drills are buggered into a "red-hot mushroom drill? Are their files clean and organized, or are they all in a dirty pile and missing teeth?
These things will tell you all you need to know.
Seriously though, no matter what trade training you take, always endeavor to be very good at it.
Many trade skills are conducive to becoming a good gunsmith.
Here's a quick check to see if someone has what it takes- Take a look at their tools. Not what tools they have, but the CONDITION of them, the storage of them. Take a look at their drills and taps. Are they sharp? Are they CLEAN? Or is everything all covered in muck, and half the drills are buggered into a "red-hot mushroom drill? Are their files clean and organized, or are they all in a dirty pile and missing teeth?
These things will tell you all you need to know.
I have my certification as a tool and die maker in Ontario and the basic machine-ing skills will help as a gun-smith (tapers, threading, squaring etc.) But the biggest challenge you will encounter are set-ups. jigs and fixtures and alot of special tools you will need are very costly or make your own. I have used tools from HK that are $900.00
Check out brownells cat. Seems to me gunsmithing tools are more expensive then the standard precision tools I have from my tool and die years.
Check out brownells cat. Seems to me gunsmithing tools are more expensive then the standard precision tools I have from my tool and die years.
