MILs to MOA Conversion Scale

Strelok Pro has a quick converter function in it. It also does most of the shooter relevant conversions a person could want to do on the neighboring pages.
 
I can see this being useful if a shooter is using MOA and a spotter is using MILS (or vice versa). I’ve been in this situation before and that little chart is faster than a calculator
 
Thanks, I downloaded it and will keep it with me. I've been using moa forever, and just got my first mil scope. It can be a bit confusing at times trying to figure things out, like how many clicks to move point of impact a certain distance when sighting in.
Kristian
 
kthomas said:
Why would anyone want to convert between mils and moa?

Your reticle is a ruler. If you are doing math behind the rifle, you are doing something wrong.
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I can not see how anyone can argue with this ^^

Every scope I've every had (except one) has been in MOA.. I know what a yard & an inch look like (as well I know what a metre & a centimeter look like).

Because I do F Class and everything is in yards I prefer MOA.

But if someone gave me the distance to target in metres (in lieu of yards)...... then it would be much easier for me to do the conversion of meters to yards in my head than reference a ruler.... i.e. 1 meter is roughly 1 yard .... but 10 meters is roughly 11 yards... so for every 10 meters I'll just add an extra yard. Fast and easy.

At Nokomis, all of our shooting berms are in yards except for our shortest berm at 300 meters.
So even if I were to forget that 300 meters is actually 328 yards.... if I stick to the logic above a just go 300 yards + an extra 30 yards, then my elevation adjustment for 330 yards should still get me in (or pretty darn close) to the 5 ring on at least one my two sighters.

emerson said:
This, unless maybe your scope is SFP. Why even have anything more than crosshairs then?
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Doesn't matter if your scope is FFP or SFP...both can be used as rulers (as well as range finders).
A SFP is still a ruler if you are at the right zoom level to achieve proper sub tension.
 
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The purpose of a table like this isn't for you to do math while you're shooting.

At the matches I shoot, there is a mix of mils and moa shooters. During the usual pre or post stage conversation, guys are talking about wind holds and elevation. Being able to easily convert between the two units is useful.
 
As far as SFP reticles, if you forget 1 time, what mag you are on it’s worse because bad data in equals misses out. I’ve worked and recreated with folks who have a tool or procedure for everything they can think possibly think of. Sounds cool. They can explain how smart they are to me forever. Under time pressure their obsession with cool tools distracts them from actually doing timely good work.
 
Not being an F'er myself I do have to ask...what happens if you are shooting a team match with a coach? Is everyone expected to have a mils scope? What about the 2 guys on the team that have MOA scopes. Or is it sorted out beforehand that mils guys shoot on the same target with a coach versed in mils and MOA guys shoot together with a coach versed in MOA. Seems like a lot of work for a coach to have to flip back and forth between 2 systems. This may not be a problem if the coach is only having you hold off a ring or two on the target, but if your wind bracket is 8 or 10 minutes during your shoot I can see a coaches head explode trying to convert between 2 systems.
 
maynard said:
Not being an F'er myself I do have to ask...what happens if you are shooting a team match with a coach? Is everyone expected to have a mils scope? What about the 2 guys on the team that have MOA scopes. Or is it sorted out beforehand that mils guys shoot on the same target with a coach versed in mils and MOA guys shoot together with a coach versed in MOA. Seems like a lot of work for a coach to have to flip back and forth between 2 systems. This may not be a problem if the coach is only having you hold off a ring or two on the target, but if your wind bracket is 8 or 10 minutes during your shoot I can see a coaches head explode trying to convert between 2 systems.
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I see what you are saying here. I've only competed in F Class (locally in SK) for about 5 years -but I can honestly say, I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone who competes (regularly) use Mils. I've seen guys come to a match who have never shot F Class before come with Mils scopes.
 
maynard said:
Not being an F'er myself I do have to ask...what happens if you are shooting a team match with a coach? Is everyone expected to have a mils scope? What about the 2 guys on the team that have MOA scopes. Or is it sorted out beforehand that mils guys shoot on the same target with a coach versed in mils and MOA guys shoot together with a coach versed in MOA. Seems like a lot of work for a coach to have to flip back and forth between 2 systems. This may not be a problem if the coach is only having you hold off a ring or two on the target, but if your wind bracket is 8 or 10 minutes during your shoot I can see a coaches head explode trying to convert between 2 systems.
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For team matches, you standardise on EVERYTHING... optics, barrels, bullets, loads, vertical, zero. The wind coach should only have to consider one firing solution.

otherwise, it is a trainwreck. In F class, it is a very rare thing to see anything but MOA.

I believe this debate centers around PRS games where both systems are in use.. and shooters get confused.

Jerry
 
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