milsurp alert!! - check this out!

He lowered the price from $1500 to $1000 obo

not the same ad. The original ad is deleted, that is a different seller with a more realistic asking price, but no photos are posted and the guy isn;t providing any until he gets back home in a few days. So who knows what the rifle's condition/features are.
 
With the original mad dash to buy one of these over, buyers in the now developing secondary market will be able to demand lots of photos and look for one with a maximum of original features. I would imagine prices will eventually cover a wide range peaking in any one that might have all-original matching parts and (if any of them have it) original finish on the metal. No doubt many will be posted in the days to come and, along with studying these, prospective buyers should spend some time on Gunboards and learn what "original matching" looks like. You might also try to locate a copy of Alex Yuschenkos recent book.

The rifle I purchased from Tradex has definite original, matching bolt and buttplate plus unsanded, excellent stock. The mag floorplate is certainly "force-matched". Mechanical condition is perfect with what appears to be like-new bore. Very happy with it and Kudos to tradex for bringing these in.

milsurpo
 
Here are pictures of the 4 i have been able to inspect. 2 are mine and the rest is my brother and father:

Serial ЗД, 3B, ДX, ДX

floorplate has been restamped on the ЗД, 3B

AX seem to be the lowest batch of production i have seen

They all seem to have a faint X near receiver, probably the refurbish mark































 
Serial ЗД seems to me to have a restamped bolt, as well. The 7 is similar to the floorplate and not identical to the barrel. Thanks for showing all of yours. A fine group of 91/30's. It is kind of interesting that these rifles with attached bayonets stayed together as a group with some having a few replacement parts and others not. One gets the impression that the group went through a selective refurb process with only parts that required it being changed. Different from, for ex, the post war SVT refurbs where each rifle was stripped right down and removable parts scrubbed and reused but no rifle getting any of its original pieces back. Perhaps the odd replacement part won't affect value too much given that the whole group probably went through a light refurb process.

milsurpo
 
More force matched examples from milsurpo and fredqc 372 and 342. I wonder what percentage of this batch ended up being original matching.
 
Here are a few pics of mine. I think I am only the second BB prefix reported so far? I am not experienced when it comes to knowing if a serial number has been forced matched, some knowledgeable opinions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance



 
Here are a few pics of mine. I think I am only the second BB prefix reported so far? I am not experienced when it comes to knowing if a serial number has been forced matched, some knowledgeable opinions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance




I don't think your is renumbered, but like a few of these, the bolt shelf was ground smoother at light refurb. It looks like it was not re-stamped, just lightly sanded over the existing serial number.

I've also noticed many of these had bolt knobs smoothed out at light refurb. Typical 1943 production looked coarser that what we are seeing on most of these.
 
I don't think your is renumbered, but like a few of these, the bolt shelf was ground smoother at light refurb. It looks like it was not re-stamped, just lightly sanded over the existing serial number.

I've also noticed many of these had bolt knobs smoothed out at light refurb. Typical 1943 production looked coarser that what we are seeing on most of these.

Mine looks exactly like this one with regards to refurb. A bit of sanding on the bolt but I don't see any evidence of restamps otherwise.
 
I think the majority of people that bought these are planning on keeping them for a while. The few guns selling now will eventually end up in someone's hand that also wants to keep it. If no more of these show up and no one is selling them they will become more rare then they already are. Not everyone even knows that these exist.
I'm surprised no one has grabbed the ones on the EE yet.
$1000 is a small investment for these guns I think.


With the original mad dash to buy one of these over, buyers in the now developing secondary market will be able to demand lots of photos and look for one with a maximum of original features. I would imagine prices will eventually cover a wide range peaking in any one that might have all-original matching parts and (if any of them have it) original finish on the metal. No doubt many will be posted in the days to come and, along with studying these, prospective buyers should spend some time on Gunboards and learn what "original matching" looks like. You might also try to locate a copy of Alex Yuschenkos recent book.

The rifle I purchased from Tradex has definite original, matching bolt and buttplate plus unsanded, excellent stock. The mag floorplate is certainly "force-matched". Mechanical condition is perfect with what appears to be like-new bore. Very happy with it and Kudos to tradex for bringing these in.

milsurpo
 
In 5 years when these guns will be able to be exported to the USA, who knows what prices will be like.
 
In 5 years when these guns will be able to be exported to the USA, who knows what prices will be like.

Yes, it will be like winning the 6/49 or hitting the jackpot in Vegas! Good times and buckets of money for the lucky SOB's that snagged these rifles up. Just have to pray hard that no more come into the country.
 
In 5 years when these guns will be able to be exported to the USA, who knows what prices will be like.

What is likely to happen in 5 years that is preventing them from being imported now? Or are you referring to the rule where a gun from a banned state has to spend 5 years in a neutral country before being importable?

I guess this relates to the sanctions on Russia, but near as I can tell, these guns were not exported from Russia, and haven't been in Russia for decades (?).
 
5 year letter is necessary for export to the USA.

How does that work? Is it just an attestation by the seller that they have had the rifle in Canada for 5 or more years? Or does the seller have to get the importer to make the attestation?
 
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