Milsurp Collector vs Target Shooter?

wbaad said:
Why on gods green earth would you feel bad about telling them it is for target shooting? You have all qualifications and what you do with your gun within the confines of the law is none of their business. You decide to shoot a particular gun or not does not matter to anyone
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My point is: why do I have to lie?
In many cases I am purchasing a valuable firearm, that is over 70 years old, that I have no intention of shooting. Why do I have to say the purpose is "target shooting". I already have a restricted PAL and a LTATT and have supplied range membership information. It is perfectly legal for me to buy and possess this firearm and never take it to the range and shoot it. So why make me lie in order to approve the transfer. In one instance I said "collecting" and was told the transfer would not be approved unless I changed my answer. The person on the other end of the phone knew I was lying when I changed my answer to "uh...target shooting...I guess", so we were both just going through the motions..... for what reason?
 
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"AAAaaaah, what the heck?

"Lookit all these guys: restricteds all over the place and they are COLLECTORS. They got a lotta RIFLES, too, and we don't have legal records on most of those any more.

"Well, if the things are for COLLECTING, then they don't gotta be able to shoot, do they?

"They just sit around and look pretty.

"Annnnnd, they gave up their rights of refusal when they got "Collector" status.

"Okay, guys, hit 'em all between 2 and 3 AM and WELD EVERYTHING YOU FIND SOLID.

"They aren't shooting the things, anyway. We're just saving them money!"





Sorry, guys.

I first started becoming politically aware about 60 years ago.

Since then, I find that I have been LIED TO for about 56 of the last 60 years.

I no longer trust ANYTHING coming out of Ottawa. READ what they write: EVERYTHING has a LOOPHOLE written into it.

Just don't blame me when they USE it.
 
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Are the guns you have to shoot at the range the same ones you collect, or do they have separate status? That is, do some have to stay locked up at home or can you get att's for all of them?

Jeez, I hope not! I not only shoot them at the "range", but the non-restricted "collectibles" get hauled out to a gravel pit, and some have made it to Virden for the those poor, down-trodden Manitoba CGNr's to slobber on.

I don't necessarily shoot all my collector stuff. This is partly because I haven't got around to it yet, partly because a few are simply not going to get fired, and partly because I have a rather large collection and can't reasonably get to them all.

Years back, we used to be able to take our FN and variants to the ranges and kill oil jugs, paper targets, and gongs. However, the a$$holes :jerkit: in Ottawa have decided that we can no longer be trusted and have made up more ridiculous rules to put a stop to that.

I take this opportunity to make it clear that I have NO opinion on whether it is good, bad or otherwise to collect guns and never fire some of them, other than to say it matters not one lick to me if you wear your collector guns out or keep them locked up all the time. Each to his/her own. Keep buying!! :)

Edit: I do have collector status.
 
I belong to a range and have collector status as well. I requested collector status prior to joining a range several years ago. I go back and forth between buying guns for “target practice” and for “collecting”, as far as I can tell it doesn’t make a difference. My ATT covers everything I own, and I can’t recall the “reason” for any specific firearm that I’ve purchased, nor does it show up on any of the forms that I can see. I should also add that I’ve never been inspected.
 
I skimmed the posts, so forgive me if this has been covered already:

If you have 12.2, 3, 4, and/or 5 are you not automatically considered a collector by default?
 
Having collector status without shooting your guns is a sure receipe
for the gov to require deactivation of the said firearms, sooner or later,
as it was already proposed by the rcmp brass numerous times.
They will probably start with the 12.x classes, and after that restricted, antiques, etc.
They already discussed that with the gov.
 
Or, we could demand the CPC re-write the FA so that this sort of conversation isn't necessary.
 
After reading this thread, I ah glad I live in Arizona! I don't take the Vickers, Bren,(Candian Inglis), Sten, or Lewis out often, but Nobody is coming to my house and inspecting them either.
Have no worries about them confiscating the PIAT or the 2 inch mortar.
Roughly 50 handguns.
 
Sorry if this is re-animating a zombie thread...

I didn't/wouldn't go the "collector" route. In addition to the consent to search you have to agree to, and the possibility of forced de-activation that have already been mentioned, I was concerned by having to declare a "collecting interest" (or however they worded it). Seemed to me to be a way of Them (the gov't/RCMP/CFO/whoever) to tell what I can and cannot purchase. "Why do you want a Kel Tec when your stated collecting interest is WWII rifles? Denied!"
 
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