Milsurps are the greatest thing ever.

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I can't get enough of them.
I'm a history nut, i pick up a book on a war, or watch a docu-drama like band of brothers, i'm content.

Milsurps.. it's a thing, in your house, that was USED in a war.. (or what have you..)
i mean.
I go to any of my guns that were used in a war, they look wonderful, they function perfectly, and some are a hundred years old..

like..

ugh..

so great.

They're manifestations of history, AND they're guns.

awesome.

as a note, whenever my friends and I go shooting, out of EVERYTHING, the M1 carbine, M1 Garand and No.4 are always the favourites.
 
cz52 said:
Well...you seem quite happy.
Have you tried collecting stuff other than British, US and Canadian? Maybe a Steyr Mannlicher or a Lebel?
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Nobody cares about that odd stuff from loser countries that no one can find ammo for. :p
 
Great attitudes guys. Have you ever FIRED a lebel? Or a stery? GREAT guns if you reload, regardless of what you think of the original users.
 
If you want an argument, you'll need to change the topic. ;)

As for the "Loser" and "French" stuff. We need to be patient with those with such attitudes - they are childish and ignorant and need time to grow up.

P.S. the Germans "Lost", and the French "Won". The Russians "Won", but had to employ a war of attrition losing millions of men to achieve it.
 
Imagine if today a modern manufacturer were to produce any of these old gems. The price would be astronomical. I can assure you your standard lee enfield would cost more than a 700 and probably as much as a Sako. And the proof is in the date stamps. They have survived as much as a century or more and still function as good as they did when they were new. There will always be a place in my home for at least one .303.
 
BBq_Woa! said:
I can't get enough of them.
I'm a history nut, i pick up a book on a war, or watch a docu-drama like band of brothers, i'm content.

Milsurps.. it's a thing, in your house, that was USED in a war.. (or what have you..)
i mean.
I go to any of my guns that were used in a war, they look wonderful, they function perfectly, and some are a hundred years old..

like..

ugh..

so great.

They're manifestations of history, AND they're guns.

awesome.

as a note, whenever my friends and I go shooting, out of EVERYTHING, the M1 carbine, M1 Garand and No.4 are always the favourites.
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I completely agree with you. I have two (M1 Garand and a SVT-40), one I'm purchasing (L.E. No 4 Mk1), one or two I"m going to purchase from a friend this summer (Mosin Nagant, and something), one I'm dreaming of purchasing afterwards (K98k), and finally several I'm dreaming of owning later.

This wonderful thing of owning pieces of history that work and are still usable is wonderful. I can't get enough of it. My bank account sure hates me though:evil: . I am so hooked on Milsurp that I just don't know when I'm stoping it. I know what I want to get, and as I get them, more pop up.... :runaway:
Its the greatest thing in the world.
 
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Andy said:
If you want an argument, you'll need to change the topic. ;)

As for the "Loser" and "French" stuff. We need to be patient with those with such attitudes - they are childish and ignorant and need time to grow up.

P.S. the Germans "Lost", and the French "Won". The Russians "Won", but had to employ a war of attrition losing millions of men to achieve it.
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Ahem! The Americans 'Won' in France. The French 'Surrendered'. The Russians 'Won' a strategic Victory but lost tactically. US vs. NVA history repeats.:slap:
 
Count me in for lovin milsurps and their history! The patina! the smell! The craftsmanship! The shoulder bruises exactly as a poor Russian Conscript would have enjoyed. Except Steyr M95's. I respect them and think their design is...amusing...but don't want to own another one, even if it's given to me (like the last one practically was). Unless I come across a few million bucks. Then maybe one :D. They are kinda cute all dressed up with a sling and big bayo.
 
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R005t3r said:
The Russians 'Won' a strategic Victory but lost tactically. US vs. NVA history repeats.:slap:
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I disagree with you! During the battle of Stalengrad, they tactically cut off german reinforcements in a nearby city. I would say, that they won both strategically and tactically. They were pushed back to they're capital cities, and managed, yes with the help of winter, to push the german's all the way to berlin. They did that both tatically and strategically.
 
Hi there,!
wow, lots of replies!

as for my only collecting allied stuff, I'm sure i'll get some axis and odds later on (i technically already have an axis, my Finn M91 :) )

I dislike mausers, but I'll get a good cheap example when I find one,
I'd love a Mauser Gewehr from WWI, but I don't even know if theyre around (or affordable)

I'd like a Lebel 1886 simply because they're interesting mechanically.
 
Occasionally, it can be determined where a rifle was actually used. For example, one CGN has a 91/30 with a Barcelona Arsenal mark on the butt. That means the rifle was supplied to the International Brigades in Spain by the Soviet Union, and subsequently captured by the Fascists. Makes it more than just a representative specimen. Two of my Mk. III Rosses were probably used during the 2nd Battle of Ypres in April, 1915. Both are marked to Bns. that were present. My P.08 is marked on the inside of one grip "JULY 10 43 AVOLA SICILY".
 
I have two that I know where they were. There is nothing quite like the fascination of owning one that was actually THERE. That IS history, right in your hands.

Just too bad that repeated Canadian Governments have tarred us all as crackpots and terrorists.
 
Tyler said:
Nobody cares about that odd stuff from loser countries that no one can find ammo for. :p
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skirsons said:
Stupid Lebel... French Rifles are pretty but useless.
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Stupid is as stupid does, they say.
Well, the Lebel kept my grand-father alive and shooting in Verdun and through all the 1914-1918 meatgrinder unpleasantness. Maybe it was a Berthier, too, I don't know. They had to do with what was at hand.
And they did well, I guess...

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I love milsurp as well! I just came back from firing of my new to me K31 and am amazed at the trigger. Even if it did not serve in war, the quality of the bore, metal and craftsmanship of the Swiss speaks volumes as to the depth of their military ethos. Two weeks ago I fired off my 1925 dated Mosin 91/30 and had a blast in more ways than one. After several years of collecting without shooting them much, I've finally taken up reloading, bullet casting and have hooked up with people who regularly go to the range. The Enfields, Mausers, Steyrs that my ancestors would have used will be out in full force this summer!

I am surprised at how much attention my milsurps get at the range, especially since I picked up several at the tail end of the days when $100 was an average price for a decent Mauser or Enfield, and Mosins were even less. I highly recommend that anyone who can pick up a K31, Mosin varient, RC Mauser, SKS or any reasonably priced Enfield do so before they regret passing them up. God willing I'll one day harvest at least one deer with a milsurp and introduce many others to both shooting and military heritage.

Lets keep these rifles and the history that they contain alive and well!

Regards,

Frank
 
Lebels', Mas', Lee Enfields, Mausers, Mannlichers, Mosin Nagants, Krags, Springfields, Arisakas, Martinis, Berdans, etc, the list goes on and on. The next problem is you aren't satisfied with just one example. It's sheer madness and an out and out addiction, but at least you still have something of value when your finished shooting it ore strokeing it, Not like lighting up and puffing the hard earned money into the air, never to be recovered. Buy more, enjoy more. bearhunter
 
With all the modern automatic weapons and the cyclic rates that are mind boggling , it's nice to fire something from an era when accuracy was it. Slow rate of fire but well aimed deliberate shots produced the same effect. They were not sniping wepons but got the job done. It's nice to own a piece of history that is still as operational now as it was back then. Also makes one hell of a lot louder noise than a 5.56.
 
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