mini 14 vs the rest of the black rifles
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Trying to mount an optic to a Mini-14... forget about it.
I had a couple Mini-Thirties, I hated how the POI would change after running through a few magazines; I don't know if the 14's also experience this.
I'd also choose any other black rifle before the Mini-14, especially with regards to price. Mini-14's aren't cheap.
The AR-180B's were the absolute best bang for the buck in terms of non-restricted .223 rifle. I wish they were still making them.
I had a couple Mini-Thirties, I hated how the POI would change after running through a few magazines; I don't know if the 14's also experience this.
I'd also choose any other black rifle before the Mini-14, especially with regards to price. Mini-14's aren't cheap.
The AR-180B's were the absolute best bang for the buck in terms of non-restricted .223 rifle. I wish they were still making them.
Minute of barn...a big barn. That said they are relatively reliable and somewhat solid. The new ones are abit better in accuracy. It couldve been a great rifle but its a Ruger in the end. I have several Rugers, but they are what they are.
You will often see people spend huge amounts of cash on a Mini, then see it go up for sale later on.
If you got the A-Team on dvd though, maybe it makes for a good coffee table gun, while your watching it...Otherwise money can be put to better use elsewhere
Lastly for some odd reason the Mini always seems to be the entry gun for those moving towards a black rifle type of gun, but wanting something abit easier and in between in looks. I think more new people to guns buy Minis than people who have owned alot of guns, at least from my experience with what ive seen that seems to be the case.
I would not put a crate of Minis in comparison with a Swiss Arms rifle.
You will often see people spend huge amounts of cash on a Mini, then see it go up for sale later on.
If you got the A-Team on dvd though, maybe it makes for a good coffee table gun, while your watching it...Otherwise money can be put to better use elsewhere
Lastly for some odd reason the Mini always seems to be the entry gun for those moving towards a black rifle type of gun, but wanting something abit easier and in between in looks. I think more new people to guns buy Minis than people who have owned alot of guns, at least from my experience with what ive seen that seems to be the case.
I would not put a crate of Minis in comparison with a Swiss Arms rifle.
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If they took AR mags I'd get one ,but that's just me.
The mini14 isn't a black rifle.
Ergonomics 1950s. Charging handle on right, mag release by mag, and safety front of trigger guard. It requires a conventional stock and is basically a semi auto ranch gun.
As for accuracy, the target version is actually very good. If you get a trigger job and mess around with ammo then it shoots very well. There are some older threads on it. Completelly goes against the usual mini14 accuracy expectations. Not too bad for mounting a scope on either.
Pretty much any real black rifle (except the MR1 which is an imposter) is a step up from the mini these days. But they have their place. They are dependable, not bad firearms that are priced well.
The MR1 would be ok if it were the same price as the min14 but its not and it has the same flaws. If they were the same price I'd chose a MR1 over a normal mini14 but the MR1 is approaching twice as much.. In the long run it would be cheaper to save a little longer and just buy a real black rifle rather than the MR1. The mini14 as others have mentioned is a good stepping stone towards the more expensive black rifles.
Ergonomics 1950s. Charging handle on right, mag release by mag, and safety front of trigger guard. It requires a conventional stock and is basically a semi auto ranch gun.
As for accuracy, the target version is actually very good. If you get a trigger job and mess around with ammo then it shoots very well. There are some older threads on it. Completelly goes against the usual mini14 accuracy expectations. Not too bad for mounting a scope on either.
Pretty much any real black rifle (except the MR1 which is an imposter) is a step up from the mini these days. But they have their place. They are dependable, not bad firearms that are priced well.
The MR1 would be ok if it were the same price as the min14 but its not and it has the same flaws. If they were the same price I'd chose a MR1 over a normal mini14 but the MR1 is approaching twice as much.
. In the long run it would be cheaper to save a little longer and just buy a real black rifle rather than the MR1. The mini14 as others have mentioned is a good stepping stone towards the more expensive black rifles.
I've had a bunch of Mini's over the years, some reasonably accurate, some not so much. All have been very reliable, and my current Hogue-stocked Target model is also very accurate. I've owned an AR180B, three different Swiss Arms, an HBAR Colt AR-15, and I've sold all of them without regret...but I will always have a Mini. I just like'em.
My Target model approaches the accuracy of a Swiss Arms, and so far has matched the reliability (i.e. no failures or stoppages of any kind) for less than a third of the price. It is one of my favourite coyote rifles.
I like the looks of the HK SL-8, but hate the ergonomics. I like the ergonomics of the Benelli MR-1, but hate the looks. The AR is now restricted, so I have no interest (when I owned mine they were non-restricted). The Swiss is nice, but just doesn't turn my crank...it sure isn't the Holy Grail that it's fanboys make it out to be. The AR180 offered great value-for-money, but it felt cheap, used a scope mounting system designed by Fred Flintstone and provided accuracy that was merely OK, not significantly better than most of my older Mini's. To me, the only dark horse in the race is the XCR...I've never shot or even handled one, but would like to.
No, Mini's aren't cheap...but they are less expensive, in many cases MUCH less expensive, than all the other choices. The exception here may be the Kel-Tec SU-16, if and when it shows up. If it does, I'll probably try one...but I'll keep my Mini, thank you.
John
My Target model approaches the accuracy of a Swiss Arms, and so far has matched the reliability (i.e. no failures or stoppages of any kind) for less than a third of the price. It is one of my favourite coyote rifles.
I like the looks of the HK SL-8, but hate the ergonomics. I like the ergonomics of the Benelli MR-1, but hate the looks. The AR is now restricted, so I have no interest (when I owned mine they were non-restricted). The Swiss is nice, but just doesn't turn my crank...it sure isn't the Holy Grail that it's fanboys make it out to be. The AR180 offered great value-for-money, but it felt cheap, used a scope mounting system designed by Fred Flintstone and provided accuracy that was merely OK, not significantly better than most of my older Mini's. To me, the only dark horse in the race is the XCR...I've never shot or even handled one, but would like to.
No, Mini's aren't cheap...but they are less expensive, in many cases MUCH less expensive, than all the other choices. The exception here may be the Kel-Tec SU-16, if and when it shows up. If it does, I'll probably try one...but I'll keep my Mini, thank you.
John
The two SKS carbines I owned were both absolute junk. Don't buy one. My Rem 870 is more accurate with slugs, and ALMOST as cheap.
Everybody has an opinion!
The new Minis are not bad - They should be less expensive, but they are pretty tough. If you buy one of those forward pic rails, they would be an awesome zombie gun, if you put something like an aimpoint h-1 or t-1 on it. (T-1 if you need night vision, to make your ##### seem larger). I just wish mags were cheaper.
I have a mini and an XCR would take the XCR in a heart beat. The mini is my range pig to dump rounds through, although reliable, it is minute of barn like someone else said previous. Do not listen to that XCR hater.lol.
If you're going for a tactical shooting style firearms I have to agree with the CZ 858 being a better rifle than the min14. The target models were the only ones I had interest in. Although they are a decent priced ranch gun.
I'd probably wait a while and look into the ACR. With the match barrel it may be the best all around. I also suspect the prices will come down later. That and I'm waiting for Bushmaster to release the gas parts so barrels can be easily replaced. Once these are at the $2500 level, I think the XCR will be history. At least until they drop the price by a lot.
I'd probably wait a while and look into the ACR. With the match barrel it may be the best all around. I also suspect the prices will come down later. That and I'm waiting for Bushmaster to release the gas parts so barrels can be easily replaced. Once these are at the $2500 level, I think the XCR will be history. At least until they drop the price by a lot.
hard to compare a 500$ mini 14 with a 1500 AR or a 3000$ swiss Arms. At any rate not a bad rifle but very basic no frills and not nearly as high speed low drag like an AR and not as indestructable as an 858. I believe the biggest factor for getting one are the low cost and commonality and it pisses of the anti's. An SKS would be cheaper but that's because it's old combloc war surplus and not made in 'Merica.
