MOA questions long range

You need to figure out if your turrets are mil or MOA. Take a look at your manual or maybe make a call to Bushnell and give them your your serial number.

If 4 clicks put you about 2" over your original zero, you may have a mil-mil scope. Mil turrets will usually be in 0.1 mil increments. 4 clicks or 0.4 mils is 4 cm at 100 meters, or 1.56 inches - close to 2 inches. That said, your accuracy could have put this bullet high or low from POA.

Not sure where you are getting your numbers but 14.7" is 1.4 mils (see my previous post for the calculation) or 14 clicks if your turrets are 0.1 mil/click. If your turrets are MOA, 14.7" is about 4.9 MOA, so about 20 clicks.

If you are shooting at known distances, and know your drop you don't need a mil dot reticle. You just need to know if your turrets are mil or MOA. You seem to think in yards so MOA would be best for you. The calculation would then be: clicks = drop-in-inches/# hundreds-of-yards x 4 clicks-per-MOA (14.7/3x4=19.6 clicks). At 300 yards, each 0.25 MOA click is 0.75 inches.

For mil turrets, the calculation is: clicks = drop-in-inches x 1000/range-in-inches x 10 clicks-per-mil (14.7 x 1000/(300 x 36) x 10 = 13.6 clicks). At 300 yards, each 0.1 mil click is 0.093" inches. Mils are so much easier in metric units.
 
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Pr589 said:
You need to figure out if your turrets are mil or MOA. Take a look at your manual or maybe make a call to Bushnell and give them your your serial number.

If 4 clicks put you about 2" over your original zero, you may have a mil-mil scope. Mil turrets will usually be in 0.1 mil increments. 4 clicks or 0.4 mils is 4 cm at 100 meters, or 1.56 inches - close to 2 inches. That said, your accuracy could have put this bullet high or low from POA.

Not sure where you are getting your numbers but 14.7" is 1.4 mils (see my previous post for the calculation) or 14 clicks if your turrets are 0.1 mil/click. If your turrets are MOA, 14.7" is about 4.9 MOA, so about 20 clicks.

If you are shooting at known distances, and know your drop you don't need a mil dot reticle. You just need to know if your turrets are mil or MOA. You seem to think in yards so MOA would be best for you. The calculation would then be: clicks = drop-in-inches/# hundreds-of-yards x 4 clicks-per-MOA (14.7/3x4=19.6 clicks). At 300 yards, each 0.25 MOA click is 0.75 inches.

For mil turrets, the calculation is: clicks = drop-in-inches x 1000/range-in-inches x 10 clicks-per-mil (14.7 x 1000/(300 x 36) x 10 = 13.6 clicks). At 300 yards, each 0.1 mil click is 0.093" inches. Mils are so much easier in metric units.
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Thanks a lot for your answer mate. I haven't learned the proper way yet so yards or meters once I understand I'll accomodate but I think I prefer metric than imperial. It is said on many website the turrets are in moa.
I came up with the number 14.7 based on the bullet drop estimate from remington as well as a bullet drop calculator.
I'll re-read your posts and write it I never been good in math though but still Lot of things to learn and understand!
Thanks a lot for your explanstion it's very appreciated!
Cheers
Grendeb
 
If you have 4 clicks between each numbers on your turrets, I am 99.99999999% shure they are MOA (0.25 MOA per click).

I don't think I have ever heard of any "MOA dot" reticle so you must have a mil dot reticle and MOA turrets. So my advice is to use the turrets for everything (they will always be right regardless of magnification on sfp scope) and do not use the reticle for naything except mabey ranging.

Regards
 
I have red a lot lately to understand and make up my mind on all this.
I have not found how the hell you make correction on a Mil scope, all I hear is range estimation and nothing on how to define/choose how many mils you must select on your scope to be on target. Is it like Moa? if I have 12'' drop at 300yards and that 1moa=3'' @300yards how many 3'' fits into 12'' drop=4moa is that the same with mils or I'm missing something because nobody talks about this but ONLY about how to find range.

So 1mils is 1cm@100meters you make adjustment with 1click=0,1cm. so 1mil= 3cm@300m correct?
Since I have a drop of 12'' (30.4cm) is it like MOA where how many mil fit into the 30cm? if so 30,4cm/3cm=10... this would represent 10 mils on the turrets?
I find this really confusing and hard to believe it's possible to make 1000 yards shots if a scope only have 19mils of adjustments...

I know I'm definitely missing something.
Thanks for the explanations.
 
1 cm at 100 meters is one tenth of a mil, not one mil. 19 mil is 190 cm at 100 meters not 19cm.

I can't believe how screwed up you are getting. Forget everything you think you know and start over.

I'm going to do something that I shouldn't. I'll assume that the scope you have is the same as the one I used to own. If it is the same, your scope is 1/4 MOA on the turrets, Mil at 12 power and half Mil at 24 power. The "12" on the power ring is probably red or marked. The drops that you observed matching the second dot seems to bear this out.
 
So my advice is to use the turrets for everything (they will always be right regardless of magnification on sfp scope) and do not use the reticle for naything except mabey ranging.
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Just using the turrets is good advice. A second focal plane reticle changes with magnification, a first focal plane doesn't.
 
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