model 70 300 mag (1938)

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Hi,

I located a supergrade 300 mag from 1938. very good condition. I am pretty sure that the price is right. It comes with a scope and mounts from the era and looks to be complete and not used much from the pictures.

Will this gun be safe to shoot new factory ammo (I do reload too)?

Were the recievers matte or gloss on a supergrade from that era?
 
those vintage Model 70's were all stamped '300 Magnum', without the H&H designation.

thats is a great find.

Before putting your money down, make sure it has not been rechambered to 300 weatherby/ackley/mashburn, like so many it seems were.
 
"...a scope and mounts from the era..." Scopes and mounts from then were not like they are now. Mind you, neither were the rifles. Don't think I'd buy it from just a picture.
Like rgv says, be sure of the chambering. If it is a .300 H&H, the ammo isn't easy to get nor cheap.
 
thanks.

The gun really doesn't look used much, I doubt its been worked on but who knows. If you are correct rgv, then it is looking more and more obtainable to me. I have always wanted a 300 h&h.

Is that correct guys - older model 70 .300 H&H's are labelled '300 MAGNUM' on the side of the barrel?
 
. If it is a .300 H&H, the ammo isn't easy to get nor cheap.[/QUOTE]

The ammo isn't cheap but it and brass are still easily found.... Nosler sells 300 H&H brass.
 
sharp shooter said:
thanks.

The gun really doesn't look used much, I doubt its been worked on but who knows. If you are correct rgv, then it is looking more and more obtainable to me. I have always wanted a 300 h&h.

Is that correct guys - older model 70 .300 H&H's are labelled '300 MAGNUM' on the side of the barrel?
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Yup. And they keep fooling newer shooters! I believe the 721 Rems were also so marked. At that time, there were no other .300 Magnums. If it is marked only ".300 Magnum" it will be a .300 H&H, unless of course someone has rechambered and not restamped the barrel.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
Yup. And they keep fooling newer shooters! I believe the 721 Rems were also so marked. At that time, there were no other .300 Magnums. If it is marked only ".300 Magnum" it will be a .300 H&H, unless of course someone has rechambered and not restamped the barrel.
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You are correct about the early 721s, but my 1958 vintage Rem is marked 300 H&H.
And somewhere in my ammo stash I have some very old WW 300 H&H that is stamped 300 Mag.
 
sharp shooter said:
Hi,

I located a supergrade 300 mag from 1938. very good condition. I am pretty sure that the price is right. It comes with a scope and mounts from the era and looks to be complete and not used much from the pictures.

Will this gun be safe to shoot new factory ammo (I do reload too)?

Were the recievers matte or gloss on a supergrade from that era?
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Current factory 300 H&H ammo is only 2880 fps with a 180, which is relatively mild.

All pre-64 Model 70's had matte finished recievers from the factory, with polished (but not glossy) barrels and bottom metal.

You don't mention the dollar figures you are looking at, but that rifle is probably worth well north of $3k if unaltered.

That rifle will not be factory drilled on the rear bridge. The period correct mounts will either be a G&H type that has four big holes drilled on the LH side of the receiver and some wood taken out of the stock (bad but not the end of the world if the price is still right), or possibly the slightly later two piece mount that uses the two 6x48 holes for a reciever sight to hold the rear ring/base.

Good luck and I hope you get it.
 
My pre 64 300 H&H is marked 300 H&H but it is a much later version than the one the OP speaks of. Sounds like he hit the jackpot, provided some jackass didn't rechamber it to 300 WBY.
 
Looking at the pictures again. I think its gard to say how origional it is because I think there a lot of small differences in the guns from the factory from that time period correct??? The trigger gaurd and floorplate are matte. The reciever looks gloss from the picture but it could be my eyes (the steel looks really, really good). Is has the hood on the site, black forend, cheekpiece is a touch different from the ones on the american trading sites but all the guns on the american trading sites are a touch different. I sure am getting thirsty for this thing though. The seller lives a few hours away and When I get home from the minw I'm gonna go 'touch' it and get a little naughty with it and see if its meant to be.
 
If it has a black fore-end tip it might be a Supergrade, but a 1938 M70 won't have any cheekpiece if it's the original stock.
Why not post the pics for us to check it out?
 
rembo,

No cheekpeice even if its a supergrade??? I do beleive the gun is a supergrade, if not, It was placed in a later supergrade stock then. I would rather not post pics until I get it. It is someone elses gun still.
 
From what I understand, a pre-WWII Model 70, I would imagine particularly in Super Grade (did they make a Super Grade back then?), has some relatively serious collector value IF it's in good and original condition. And I believe these were the first .300 "magnums", definitely H&H, introduced by an American manufacturer, too, which might add to the value of the rifle.

I'd suggest, if the owner is asking the big bucks, then you would be wise to make darn sure of what you're buying.

On the other hand, if he's asking for a relatively modest price, then you probably can't go too wrong...and could win big.
 
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