Model 700™ Varmint-Tactical Rifle

I purchased a Rem 700 in .223 Rem the xcr tactical longrange sure is a fine gun B&C stock fits much nicer than the Police model and is showing very good promise in first 15 shotshttp://
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Longshot said:
I would suspect that this shape has similar cooling properties to a fluted barrel.
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Typical fluting allows for increased surface area per mass.

The slab cuts decrease weight and surface area per respective radius. As to how it affects surface area to mass ratio would depend on the length of the slab cut.
 
Surface area and heat transfer

Less surface area..but..this is offet due to the orientation of the flat sides.
They have significantly higher HEAT TRANSFER Co-EFFICIENTS and hence, net heat flow from the barrel is as good or better.


Winz said:
No. You have less surface area to dissipate heat to air.

The only thing is that you have less weight than a proper heavy barrel but lack the surface area increase created by concaved fluting of barrels.
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Aww, come on guys, don't be hatin' on the VTR.





Note: Pics taken in poor light conditions. I'll post more tomorrow when the sun is up if you'd like.
 
c_poncsak said:
Aww, come on guys, don't be hatin' on the VTR.





Note: Pics taken in poor light conditions. I'll post more tomorrow when the sun is up if you'd like.
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No one is specifically hating the M700 VTR. In fact, I think everyone wants to hear from people like you who took the plunge and find out how well it shoots.

Some of us simply believe that part of the drive is an exercise in marketing to sell a product that was manufactured in a cost saving manner. Having said that, it probably shoots as it should.
 
canuckchap said:
Less surface area..but..this is offet due to the orientation of the flat sides.
They have significantly higher HEAT TRANSFER Co-EFFICIENTS and hence, net heat flow from the barrel is as good or better.
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I don't argue with that. I'm merely stating that the Remington spokesperson claims of 'cooling due to increased surface area' are inaccurate.

If you (or anyone) happen to have the new 700 VTR and the old fluted 700 VS SFII or similar, and are able to calculate the differences with a self-run test, please post. (Of course it'd be an expensive test in theory which may or may not affect typical user accuracy for general use).
 
Why couldn't it be marketing? Isn't that why cars look so sleek these days? Those fake intakes and single pipe dual exhaust systems aren't there because they make the car more aerodynamic. All I can say is that it worked on me. I was looking for something unique and the 700 VTR fit the bill, I'm just glad it didn't feature the same disgusting stock that the SPS series comes with. Now, obviously the barrel is going to go to the scrap yard somewhere down the line and be replaced with a 26-28" heavy fluted. For now I'll just live in my little sci-fi world, shooting my triangular barrel. :)

As for how accuratly it shoots, I really can't say. I'm far from what you would call an experienced shooter and it doesn't matter how good the rifle can shoot. If I can't shoot, it wont shoot for me. However, I will say that when I don't screw things up (you can usually tell when you do) it hits the bullseye every single time.

I hit gunasaurus up with a PM to see if we could meet up at the range. I'm sure he could give you a much more in depth review on how the rifle performs. Mine is chambered in .223 Rem and I've been using factory 45gr JHP so far.
 
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I handled one today at Ellwood Epps after making a few jokes about it, but truth be told the little rifle actually handles nice. I am sure time will tell on its accuracy.
 
What's to joke about? Why is there such an issue because the barrel is machined triangular? I think giving it a try first, or see what some of the feedback is before judgement is made... I too handled the .223 version at Epps and was happy enough with it. I would rather the Hogue stock I think, but otherwise...
 
It doesn't have to be any worse that flutes - more rigid per pound is the game. Having said that, the triangular profile will be less expensive to do than fluting, which is as good a reason as any to try it.
 
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