Model 94 Rear Sight

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I picked up a nice pre-64 Winchester Model 94, but it shoots about 10 inches high at 100m. Could it possibly have the wrong rear sight on it? Anyone have different generation sights to compare?

Thanks.
 
There is a very common tendency to have a high point of impact with open sights. I don't know how you line your sights up but it may be worth it to try shooting with your front blade a little lower first and see if that cures your problem. Before you start removing parts, anyway.
By the way, I'm just being a parrot here, I can't shoot worth beans past about 50 yards with my Model 94. Good luck.
 
Mine shot high with leverevolution to nearly the same amount compared to cast loads, could have the wrong front on it as well. Williams is top notch to replace with, love my reciever peep!!
 
Check the left rear receiver wall and see if it looks like there was a peep sight
mounted there.
Peeps use a longer front sight blade if my memory hasn't failed me.
 
Need a taller front sight or lower rear sight.

~~ Check the front blade, is the bead broken off?
 
If you've got the elevator all the way down and you are putting the front bead in the very bottom notch of your buckhorn ( assuming buckhorn) and you are still hitting high you will need a taller front sight for that ammo/gun.

Can you post a picture of your sights?
 
Adjust the rear sight inner blade by loosening the screw on the right ear of the rear buckhorn and moving it down. That will fix your problem as I had the same problem with my Win 94.
 
Thanks for the input guys.

The front bead is still there and doesn't seem to ever have been messed with.
I've tried counter aiming and it comes down, but I'd rather just aim and fire without having to counter every shot.
It looks like it has a tang peep sight on it at one point. Most likely the last owner.
I'd rather use the buckhorns though. Does anyone make aftermarket ones? I don't want to file the sight down.

Thanks again.
 
What's counter aiming?
A taller front sight is the cheapest option if you are happy with the profile of your rear sight.....you can get a brass bead or an ivory or a fibre optic in red, green etc.

If you have the ability to measure your current setup and armed with the knowledge that it hits 10 inches high at 100 you can use math formula's to figure out the correct front sight height to order.

Try a search for front sight height calculation on google.
 
In my experience I found that Hornady's lever evolutions will shoot higher then standard loads. And I went to a Williams peep, installed near the hammer. So then I experimented with a few boxes of ammo. The gun liked Remington 150 grainers, and was right on the mark at about 85 yards. The Remington 170 were ok too, but shot lower. I opted for the 150's. It didn't shoot as well with Winchester or Federal ammo.
 
Counter aiming is what I call aiming 10 inches low when you shoot 10 inches high.
I've only shot Federal 150gr out of her. I wouldn't think the type of ammo would make THAT big of a difference at just 100m.
I'll check around for the front sight height calculator.

Thanks guys.
 
wade said:
your rear sight should have a small screw with a sliding piece that allows you too adjust your back sight ,, move it down a bit , if your elevators all the way down ,, wade
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They don't all have that feature. I'm guessing that if the OP was looking at the set screws that hold the micro adjustment in place he would have figured it out....

Here's a rough idea from Skinner sights web page for the difference on a Marlin 20 inch barrel,

To move the impact at 100 yards on a Marlin rifle with a 20" barrel requires .006" of sight change. (front or rear)

For example:

If you are shooting 6" low at 100 yards, your front sight needs to be "Trimmed" .036" shorter or the rear stem turned up 1 1/2 turns.

If you are shooting 6" high at 100 yards your front sight needs to be .036" taller or the rear stem turned down 1 1/2 turns. (If your stem is already at the lowest position a taller front sight is required)

If you are shooting at a shorter range than 100 yards adjust accordingly.

50 yards = 2 times the change needed. (.012" for 1" correction)
25 yards = 4 times the change needed. (.024" for 1" correction)
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If you have a hot melt glue gun you can glue a piece of plastic or wood to your existing front sight and then trim it down till it's where you want it at the range and measure the final height.
 
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Do yourself a favour and drop the factory sights and install a Williams Fool Proof Peep. Take a step further with the Firesight front post.

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/rifle1.htm#AR15
 
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