Modern Hunter and Gen 3 Pmags UPDATE APRIL 7 2015

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When we started on the MH project 3 years ago the latest mags from MagPul were Gen 2.
Once we got the rifle finished and the FRT crap behind us we ordered a PILE of PMags.
Turns out that in the interim MagPul has altered their mags to a Gen 3 version which does NOT work in our rifle.
We will be addressing this but thought that we should let folks know this.
SO IF you have a MH on order and come across Gen 2 Pmags, BUY THEM!!
We have some mags inbound from several sources for the interim, we will likely be making our own in the near future as much as I did not want to undertake yet another mag project.
We KNOW that the mags from ASC and C Products mags for the XCR-M work flawlessly as do the Gen 2 PMags
As soon as we have more info will post it.


Problem solved. We got in the IMI mag today and it fits perfectly and functions 100%.
These will most likely be our OEM mag of choice for now.
http://www.imidefense.com/black-polymer-product/IMI-Z0013.html
 
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D-Boy said:
Pmag Gen2 is already discontinued and not available anywhere. If MH need a special mags im not interested anymore.


I hope you will address the problem before the next batch.
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It is a tad late for us to modify the 1st gen rifles, which is why I posted this.
We will look at a revision for the next runs, AND as mentioned in the original post we know of several options and are investigating more.
 
For a ~$3000 rifle, it's a small complaint if there is a premium of $10 on mags. Every rifle I've owned has had some sort of mag malfunction even when it's a proprietary design.

Thanks for the heads up on this ATRS!
 
In what way do they not work? I find it strange that Magpul gen 3 are so different that they won't work in a rifle that a gen 2 mag functions perfectly in.
Why wouldn't the magwell have been sized with a little wiggle room to accommodate any mag designed for the DPMS/SR25 pattern rifles?

I wish I had taken a bunch of mags out yesterday when I went shooting with stormchaser, I have at least one gen 3 5/25 and could have tried all the rest while we were shooting. I don't even know what I own, all I know is I have around six 5/20 and one 5/25 (still in the bag, lol).
 
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Guys we have a few thousand Gen 3 Pmags in stock that were destined for the MH rifles.
Due to the fact that we test fire each and every rifle is how we came to learn of the changes in follower angle and other changes such as feed lips that are not compatible with our rifle. The Gen 2 mags that we had when we started this project worked flawlessly, as do the ASC, C Products and Robinson arms mags. Magpul has made changes that we just learned of while trying to get rifles finished and shipped.

As mentioned we ARE looking at alternatives including sucking up the huge cost of making our own mags. It will take a bit of time before we have a definitive cure.
Having ALL of the 1st production run MH uppers and lowers as well as a good start on the 2nd made and completed, makes it real hard to go back and move the mag catch, and change the angles that the mag is held at within the lower and how it correlates to the upper.

For the 3rd production run we have time to alter the design to accommodate the Gen 3 mags, but before we leap to any rash decision we need a week or 2 to figure out which is the best way to go.
There is NO need for panic, but as stated earlier IF you see Gen 2 mags for sale BUY THEM!
 
There is definitely a difference in fit between gen 2-3; gen 2 don't fit in my SL8 Magwell Adapter but gen 3 work fine...go figure
 
So,glad I hung onto my 6 ASC mags after all, and thanks to Stormchaser for the advice!
Thanks ATRS for the update, greatly appreciated.
Hope you can see my "SMILE" from here :)
 
Asking this because I wonder, not to bash anything or anyone; do other rifles have similar issues between Gen 2 and 3 as well?
 
condomboy said:
time for a Modern Hunter Pistol for the US Market and make up some new 10 rd pistol mags that work with it and get them made up right quick?
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Only a few problems here. Our guns are NON importable into the USA, being deemed weapons of war by the BATFE, ( protectionist BS if ever there was any)
We have no intention of making a pistol version at all so as to avoid all risk to our clientele of possible reclassification or the grey area that semi auto rifles can fall into when 2 classifications exist.

We ARE looking at having mags made to our spec that are extremely similar to the Gen 2 Pmags, as well as a few other options. Both long term as well as interim.
 
condomboy said:
time for a Modern Hunter Pistol for the US Market and make up some new 10 rd pistol mags that work with it and get them made up right quick?
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Why? It already works perfectly with XCR-M pistol mags. Stormchaser and I had a lot of fun proving that the other day.
Making a pistol version will only give the RCMP an excuse to look at it closer and try to make it restricted.
 
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There is no lack of mags that fit the rifle.
The one version of P Mag, being one manufacturer out of many, no longer fits.... that in no way makes it a "fail concept"....
 
I think HexMag are working on a 308 mag. And they are looking for dealers.
Heard good reviews about them as well. Maybe worth a look Rick.

w ww.hexmag.com

A review

w ww.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05/01/gear-review-hexmag-hx30-ar-ar-15-magazine/

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Somewhere in my communication with a buddy something got crossed. Gen 3 mags weren't modded to cycle properly in a MH, at least not yet
 
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