Modern Hunter and Modern Varmint update Jan 22 2016

Further to the warranty concerns.
We just got back a MH the complaint being failure to feed or eject.
It seems that despite pretty straight forward instructions from the manufacturer, ENGINE MOTOR OIL was used to lubricate the entire rifle.
The buffer tube literally had oil running out of it, which makes the buffer REAL slow in moving slowing down the bolts movement.
The motor oil also "coked" all around the gas rings essentially seizing the gas rings but also gumming up the rotation capability of the rotating bolt to the point that the bolt could not be rotated by hand.

THIS is NOT a warranty problem, it is clearly an operators lack of understanding and attempt to be creative when clearly creativity is not a good idea.
Photos to follow.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Further to the warranty concerns.
We just got back a MH the complaint being failure to feed or eject.
It seems that despite pretty straight forward instructions from the manufacturer, ENGINE MOTOR OIL was used to lubricate the entire rifle.
The buffer tube literally had oil running out of it, which makes the buffer REAL slow in moving slowing down the bolts movement.
The motor oil also "coked" all around the gas rings essentially seizing the gas rings but also gumming up the rotation capability of the rotating bolt to the point that the bolt could not be rotated by hand.

THIS is NOT a warranty problem, it is clearly an operators lack of understanding and attempt to be creative when clearly creativity is not a good idea.
Photos to follow.
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OMG. Who would buy such a nice and expensive rifle and then cheap out on lube? I hope he used synthetic at least !
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Further to the warranty concerns.
We just got back a MH the complaint being failure to feed or eject.
It seems that despite pretty straight forward instructions from the manufacturer, ENGINE MOTOR OIL was used to lubricate the entire rifle.
The buffer tube literally had oil running out of it, which makes the buffer REAL slow in moving slowing down the bolts movement.
The motor oil also "coked" all around the gas rings essentially seizing the gas rings but also gumming up the rotation capability of the rotating bolt to the point that the bolt could not be rotated by hand.

THIS is NOT a warranty problem, it is clearly an operators lack of understanding and attempt to be creative when clearly creativity is not a good idea.
Photos to follow.
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As promised now that Photobucket is online again.




Gee I can't for the life of my see why it wouldn't cycle properly?
 
It'd be nice if ATRS was to have a nice manual made up for us. One that isn't a poorly printed black and white home office type deal they got going right now. For such a premium rifle I don't think its too much to ask.
I was completely new to DI guns and was surprised how dirty everything got on this gun. I've been using Burke's Gun Oil and it has worked great for me. I prefer not using the aerosol cans like g96.
 
ezkmo said:
Yikes ^^^

That poor MH. I use Hoppe's 9 should I switch to G96?
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Hoppes #9 is a powder solvent and nothing more. For lubrication you need to use a LUBRICANT or CLP product. Hoppes makes some CLP products.
There are many good and readily available CLP type products on the market. We like the G96 as it does not gum up like some products, like frog lube does, and it smells nice too.
 
gunguy23 said:
It'd be nice if ATRS was to have a nice manual made up for us. One that isn't a poorly printed black and white home office type deal they got going right now. For such a premium rifle I don't think its too much to ask.
I was completely new to DI guns and was surprised how dirty everything got on this gun. I've been using Burke's Gun Oil and it has worked great for me. I prefer not using the aerosol cans like g96.
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See you got it. "Burkes GUN oil" and it has worked great for you as it is a GUN oil and is being used for the correct purpose. Lubrication.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Hoppes #9 is a powder solvent and nothing more. For lubrication you need to use a LUBRICANT or CLP product. Hoppes makes some CLP products.
There are many good and readily available CLP type products on the market. We like the G96 as it does not gum up like some products, like frog lube does, and it smells nice too.
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I should of mentioned the Hoppe's 9 oil/lubricant, not the solvent. But I will try to get my hands on some G96, I also have CLP but like you mentioned I find it gums up.
 
boss351cleveland said:
Clean with solvent then lightly lube with top end synthetic 5w20 motor oil . Screw the snake oil , if its good enough for a $10,000 racing engine its good enough for my rifles . Never had any issues .
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According to the owner of the company who designs, builds, tests, and is now repairing the MH at the owner's cost secondary to stupidity and inability to read/listen, I'd say your advice is very, very bad.

Do as you wish, but please don't misguide people who may not know.

-J.
 
Well having soo much oil in the buffer tube that it makes it drip will definitely slow things down. But why would motor oil affect the rest of the components when the operation is very similar to a AR.
 
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