Modern suppressed revolver.

I have shot a suppressed revolver, S&W .38spcl, that was back in about 93 in Washington state. Compared to the other suppressed pistols at the shoot, it was at least as quiet, and quieter than some.

That I would actually believe. Silencer tech was pretty lowbrow back then. We have come a long way since then. These days good supressed semi-auto's are so quiet it is possible to hear the mechanical action noise and even the ringing of the recoil spring under some conditions.

There were a few much more silent firearms there, mostly .22s if my memory is correct.

Good suppressed .22 pistols are CRAZY quiet. They can easily operate below the action noise. All the shooter hears is "clackety-clack" and then the "thump" of the bullet imnpact. :)
 
Yeah from everything you've posted over the last couple years I'd figured tech had improved. But I honestly thought people would still be working on suppressed revolvers. Building shrouds around the gap, or using the tighter machining tolerances of today to get almost zero gap.
 
I honestly thought people would still be working on suppressed revolvers. Building shrouds around the gap, or using the tighter machining tolerances of today to get almost zero gap.

It likely comes down to a cost-benefit issue. The benefit of suppressing a revolver (brass retention) is greatly overshadowed by the costs associated with doing it. Those costs being reliability and lack of noise reduction. Nobody wants a loud gun that is ultra finicky to operate.

Modern suppressed semi-auto's are totally reliable and extremely quiet. I don't think a conventional revolver could ever compete with that.
 
must get out and shoot some more suppressed stuff soon, that's the only answer
 
Just thought I'd throw in a pic I've seen before (from the 80's I believe - by Knights)

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That I would actually believe. Silencer tech was pretty lowbrow back then. We have come a long way since then. These days good supressed semi-auto's are so quiet it is possible to hear the mechanical action noise and even the ringing of the recoil spring under some conditions.



Good suppressed .22 pistols are CRAZY quiet. They can easily operate below the action noise. All the shooter hears is "clackety-clack" and then the "thump" of the bullet imnpact. :)

Silencing is not a high tech endeavor, if the only hole is the one the bullet comes out of it's very easy to suppress anything sub-sonic. Of course the more gas coming out, the bigger your can has to be. By utilizing faster burning powders that are done burning by the time the bullet exits it's simple to keep quiet.
 
Silencing is not a high tech endeavor, if the only hole is the one the bullet comes out of it's very easy to suppress anything sub-sonic. Of course the more gas coming out, the bigger your can has to be. By utilizing faster burning powders that are done burning by the time the bullet exits it's simple to keep quiet.

Says the guy who has NEVER built a silencer, NEVER shot a silenced firearm and generally knows NOTHING about real silencers except what he sees on TV. And we all know how accurate Hollywierd is in their depiction of firearms. :ar15:

There is a lot of stuff going on inside a silencer that you have no clue about. It is a lot more complex than simply stuffing an oversized piece of muffler tube with a bunch of fender washers .... trust me.
 
Says the guy who has NEVER built a silencer, NEVER shot a silenced firearm and generally knows NOTHING about real silencers except what he sees on TV. And we all know how accurate Hollywierd is in their depiction of firearms. :ar15:

There is a lot of stuff going on inside a silencer that you have no clue about. It is a lot more complex than simply stuffing an oversized piece of muffler tube with a bunch of fender washers .... trust me.
Just how did you find that out about me? I don't have a lot of silencer experience but I have had a hand in constructing them. And have seen how a little plastic or metal and shag carpet, steel wool, etc. can work to make a totally silent small bore. No thick book required. Though if I wanted to get complicated, maybe it would help. Sorry if that's too Hollywood for you.
 
I don't have a lot of silencer experience but I have had a hand in constructing them. And have seen how a little plastic or metal and shag carpet, steel wool, etc. can work to make a totally silent small bore.

Its not exactly a good idea to admit to breaking the law on the internets. These kinds of posts never go away.

What you are describing is totally illegal in both Canada and the USA. In Canada you need a firearm business licence to make Prohibited Devices and in the US you need a Form 1 Tax Stamp. As both those routes require a fair amount of paperwork, expense and federal scrutiny the people who go through the legal hoops don't generally stoop to making silencers out of shag carpet.
 
As a Nagant cylinder rotates, it also moves forward and puts the front mouth of the cartridge case into the back of the barrel. As it fires, the bullet travels forward, expanding the brass creating a "Gas Seal" and therefore no propellent gasses or noise escape from the usual cylinder gap.
Scott

They should've built this design into the S&W .460. Could of saved some thumbs... :eek:

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Its not exactly a good idea to admit to breaking the law on the internets. These kinds of posts never go away.

What you are describing is totally illegal in both Canada and the USA. In Canada you need a firearm business licence to make Prohibited Devices and in the US you need a Form 1 Tax Stamp. As both those routes require a fair amount of paperwork, expense and federal scrutiny the people who go through the legal hoops don't generally stoop to making silencers out of shag carpet.
Whoops, who said made, not I, merely technical advisor! As for the shag carpet, a friend of mine had an old rifle with a "tube" attached and in that tube, well you get the idea. We were too young to be charged, but it was disposed of. It was pretty amazing how quiet it was. I meant theoretically quiet. But then we were operating under government military operatives. Did I mention we were 14? And the shag saved the man lots of money! Cut backs you know.
 
That is not exactly what I'd call experience building a suppressor. Otherwise every guy who jammed a boiled potato on the end of a rimfire rifle would be a suppressor expert.
You assume a lot. I did not say I was an expert or that I live or have always lived in the States or Canada, or that I do not have a past criminal history (I'm not a crook). As for shag carpet, it sounds like you R+D guys like to fool around too (potatos and washers?). I don't know whether that works myself, that's some old tech! What I am saying is that I could go into (insert favourite building store) with 20 dollars and come out with the stuff needed to build an admitedely rudimentary silencer. This I could show you how to do and with your resources , you could tell us whether I actually know how to make one. I wouldn't even call you a criminal or question whether you had proper permission to proceed. Please extend the common courtesy to withhold the judgement that we are all dummies. By the way sounds like you have an interesting job, and I look foward to further discussions.
 
I like it, but of course, it would be illegal here.:
Utilize special ammo.

http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/str/strelk/ots38.htm

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The revolver is intended for engaging the enemy manpower at ranges up to 50 m with а silenced cartridge.

Compared to a silenced pistol, this revolver provides higher concealement of special operations due to the complete lack of firing signature.

A hammer-type trigger mechanism is of double action. The preliminary cocked hammer can be set on manual safety, that allows carrying a cocked revolver quite safely.

The revolver is also provided with a safety that prevents from a discharge if the cylinder is swung-out or incompletely closed, or if the gun is struck or dropped.

Due to the barrel location below the cylinder axis, the position of the firer’s hand is more stable, ensuring better accuracy and higher practical rate of fire.

Loading with a 5-round clip and simultaneous extraction of all fired cases reduces preparation of fire.

At the customer’s request the revolver can be equipped with a built-in laser target pointer.

Ammo looks like regular Nagant ammo:

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So, I guess if you get Nagant Revolver and reload the cartridge with reduced subsonic velocity.... you may get interesting results (good for the barrel and your ears anyway), but don't expect "silence"
 
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