Modern Varmint in 6.5 Grendel MAY 11 UPDATE

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Just an update to keep you in the loop as to how our progress is doing with alternate caliber options for our Modern Varmint rifle.
Many have asked for a larger than 223 caliber in our Modern Varmint rifles to be offered, so that they can be used for hunting of deer and such.

We have been testing our rifle in 6.5 Grendel and so far things are looking very promising. Please do not consider this update a "done deal" as we still want to embark on further testing before we offer up this option, but it looking very promising.

We will be employing the JP bolt assembly in these rifles/uppers, consequently the price will be a little higher on either the rifle or the upper due to the increased cost of the bolt assembly. We will have to revise pricing and once we have it established and will update the options list on our order form once we decide if we will offer this chambering. Only stainless steel barrels will be offered, but in 3 different contours.
We are working on sourcing mags specific for the 6.5 Grendel caliber.

Before we get a bunch of " I want XYZ caliber" I want to be clear, 6.8 SPC has been explored and discarded as has 7.62x39 and all wildcat chamberings for many reasons.
The ONLY cartridge we are currently looking into at this time is the 6.5 Grendel.

WEBSITE IS NOW UPDATED AND READY TO TAKE ORDERS.
 
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Awesome! Don't forget to order some ammo and reloading components too once you know if it's a go :). Here's hoping it works out and I can place my order before my birthday in early June!
 
Can you just take my money for an upper now? I am absolutely buying one!!! I know it's not a done deal yet, but I probably won't sleep now with this much excitement.
 
This is quite exciting. I would sell a few of the collection for this.

However - we would likely be limited to 3-4 round mags.
 
Good on you guys a MV 6.5 Grendel is a wicked hunting option it would be tempting to take it to spatsizi for caribou if I get the LEH
 
Uisge said:
Wouldn't 7.62x39 XCR pistol mags work?
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They certainly do. That was some of the testing I did this last weekend. 10 round XCR pistol mags, 0 malfunctions what so ever. Brass is dinged up a little as you'd expect in a semi, and ejected about 18 inches to my right while laying prone. The groups look quite promising with the 123 Amax, but testing so far hasn't been focused on accuracy but more function.

Hornady has a fairly healthy supply of factory 6.5 Grendel ammo, it's all 123grain but they've got SST's, Amax, and ELD-Match and they're one of the only companies who didn't completely abandon the Canadian market during the big ammo shortage a few years back. A reliable supply means a lot to us.
 
Johnny_Canuck said:
Interesting for sure, curious to the reason other 223 class deer legal types aren't being tried. (300 blk, 25/45 sharps) looking for the more common ammo types first?
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300 blackout has a known rep for guys using subsonic ammo either by mistake or design and having the bullets get stuck in the barrel. The fast follow up shot is usually catastrophic. So I would suggest liability reasons on that one. 25/45 is not what I would consider to be commonly available. I am pretty well travelled when it comes to gun shops and have yet to see much if any of it north of the US border.
The advantage I see with 6.5 grendel is that it is available pretty commonly and is well proven.
Small companies have to be cautious as litigation is expensive and can kill a small company in an instant. Living on the wildside is not the best of plans at times.
Lets just be happy ATRS is continuing to offer alternatives, even if it is slowly.
 
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300 blackout has a known rep for guys using subsonic ammo either by mistake or design and having the bullets get stuck in the barrel. The fast follow up shot is usually catastrophic. So I would suggest liability reasons on that one. 25/45 is not what I would consider to be commonly available. I am pretty well travelled when it comes to gun shops and have yet to see much if any of it north of the US border.
The advantage I see with 6.5 grendel is that it is available pretty commonly and is well proven.
Small companies have to be cautious as litigation is expensive and can kill a small company in an instant. Living on the wildside is not the best of plans at times.
Lets just be happy ATRS is continuing to offer alternatives, even if it is slowly.
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Since when does subsonic 300BLK get stuck in the barrel? 1050-1100ish fps is muzzle velocity, it will be +/- a few fps depending on barrel length and load but it's still exiting the muzzle. I've run a lot of subsonic 208 grain handloads through four different 300BLK rifles and I've never stuck a bullet, even factory loads fire fine even if they don't always cycle the action on a semi. I would hazzard a guess that the well known rep came from guys who don't know what they're doing reloading and who were not starting supersonic and working down using a chronograph. It's a fine line getting loads subsonic and still have them cycle a semi.
Try sticking to things you know instead of trusting crap you read on the internet. 300BLK was designed to be a cartridge you could run supersonic or subsonic in an AR without any changes to the rifle other than a barrel swap.


xdmer said:
I would love to hear why some of common, and or wildcats (I can understand) calibers were discarded. Maybe we can learn something.
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I'm going to guess it's because a lot of development and testing goes into getting a new caliber to run reliably in the rifle before they can sell it and since there is a very small market for the other cartridges it doesn't make sense to spend the time/money required to make sure it works.
 
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cr5 said:
Since when does subsonic 300BLK get stuck in the barrel? 1050fps is muzzle velocity, will be +/- a few fps depending on barrel length but it's still exiting the muzzle. I've run a lot of subsonic 208 grain handloads through four different 300BLK rifles and I've never stuck a bullet, even factory loads fire fine even if they don't always cycle the action on a semi.
Try sticking to things you know instead of trusting crap you read on the internet. 300BLK was designed to be a cartridge you could run supersonic or subsonic in an AR without any changes to the rifle other than a barrel swap.
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It's known to have people ram a mag full of 300 black into a 223 upper, which causes a setback, especially with subsonics as the case is practically empty, which is very catastrophic.
 
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