Modern Varmint killer?
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calvin in keoma
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I'd much rather build my own rifle, that way I get to choose the stock and the sights.
You still have many options, or can supply your own stock if ATRS does not happen to have the one you want, but the rifle is then professionally built as well as guaranteed to work and shoot well plus the Varmint has many nice features that the Modern Sporter does not.
I have both and there IS quite a difference.
Such as?
A professionally built and fitted rifle, assembled by someone who does it every day all day with all the correct tools and training and those same people standing behind it goes a long way towards a smooth shooting and reliable rifle.
After the SLR stories it's obvious that a lot of guys diving into the build your own category don't know what they're doing, didn't buy the right tools, and didn't bother to do the research they should have before buying, showing that the SLR and MS are not for everyone. There will always be a market for a fully built premium rifle.
Lower cost is rarely better. I think the MS will be a good product but the MV will always be a nicer and more valuable rifle.
Ever try to sell a frankenAR on the EE? Compared to a complete brand name factory built the Franken will always be a harder sell even if it has nice parts in it.
After the SLR stories it's obvious that a lot of guys diving into the build your own category don't know what they're doing, didn't buy the right tools, and didn't bother to do the research they should have before buying, showing that the SLR and MS are not for everyone. There will always be a market for a fully built premium rifle.
Lower cost is rarely better. I think the MS will be a good product but the MV will always be a nicer and more valuable rifle.
Ever try to sell a frankenAR on the EE? Compared to a complete brand name factory built the Franken will always be a harder sell even if it has nice parts in it.
I own a Modern Varmint and it's on my never sell list and will remain there even though I have 3 MS receiver sets on the way.
However if the receiver sets were an option at the time I bought my MV there is no doubt in my mind that I would have just bought the receiver sets.
However if the receiver sets were an option at the time I bought my MV there is no doubt in my mind that I would have just bought the receiver sets.
No man,
If the MS had been released the same day as the MV, the MV wouldn’t even been an option.
My MV cost $4500
Proof CFW barrel
KAC URX4 handguard
Timney trigger
My MS cost $3500
CA CFW barrel
B.A.D handguard
Geiselle National Match trigger.
The MS is what they shouldve done in the Very first place!
I wish the best for Alberta Tactical business wise.... but unless the RCMP turn around and kill this whole reciever set thing for whatever unjust reason they could possibly come up with; I cant honestly see many people choosing a MV over a MS set and the MH over a Stag arms set. Wouldnt be surprised if they cold turkey those models to keep up with the MS demands.
I wish the best for Alberta Tactical business wise.... but unless the RCMP turn around and kill this whole reciever set thing for whatever unjust reason they could possibly come up with; I cant honestly see many people choosing a MV over a MS set and the MH over a Stag arms set. Wouldnt be surprised if they cold turkey those models to keep up with the MS demands.
No need to cold turkey anything, the MH and MS are both built as ordered only, no stock has ever been built up for off the rack sales.
I think you be surprised how many people would be willing to pay extra to have a fully built premium rifle with a warranty (even if the poll doesn't show it).
Just like a high end highly tuned sports car, there are lots of guys with more money than skill. They could build their 1000hp dream car themselves and save thousands of dollars but few have the skills or tools to do it right and end up with the same reliable and well tuned product a professionally trained tech can build with all the right tools at hand.
Yes, I agree, many people understand the dynamics of a balanced rifle system and can build an AR type rifle that functions well and is reliable but most people don't. Most rely on youtube videos and internet forums to show them but don't do the research to understand the finer details and don't have the skills or tools to hand fit parts that are slightly out of spec.
No matter which path someone takes they could end up with a quality rifle but they are not all the same and the buyer's intended end use, skill set, and financial situation will determine which path is right for them.
For me, I want a MS receiver set but if the right deal came up tomorrow on a MV that was equipped the way I want I'd probably buy it. And by the right deal I don't mean if I found some crack head selling one for $1000.
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The Modern Varmint is still a great option. I own one, and would certainly buy another if the need arose. I've got a MS receiver set on order, and an SLR put together, but there are some things that are just nicer about the Modern Varmint, such as being professionally assembled, and being a side charging "not quite AR15".
onetwentyish
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I had both an ATRS MH, and a ATRS MV. Sold both this spring and picked up a BCL reciever set to re-do before building out, and will soon also have a Stag10 reciever set.
In addition to that I have a half dozen MS reciever sets on order and might be adding a few more soon.
I hate proprietary stuff. The less proprietary it is, the better. Only un-replicated ATRS MH/MV rifle features are the side chagers, and the ambi bolt release. The rest can be done with any of these NR reciever sets and if you are not sure of your skill ATRS or any other qualified shop (RDSC perhaps) will be happy to assist you in choosing the quality parts you desire and assembling it for you.
Price wise a MS or NR AR10 set assembled by a qualified armorer to the same standards as a MV or MH will cost very close to the same but not have the guarantee or warranty that a factory built rifle might carry.
In addition to that I have a half dozen MS reciever sets on order and might be adding a few more soon.
I hate proprietary stuff. The less proprietary it is, the better. Only un-replicated ATRS MH/MV rifle features are the side chagers, and the ambi bolt release. The rest can be done with any of these NR reciever sets and if you are not sure of your skill ATRS or any other qualified shop (RDSC perhaps) will be happy to assist you in choosing the quality parts you desire and assembling it for you.
Price wise a MS or NR AR10 set assembled by a qualified armorer to the same standards as a MV or MH will cost very close to the same but not have the guarantee or warranty that a factory built rifle might carry.
F22_RaptoR
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There are lots of people that want a professionally built and tested rifle, no farting around. Just order, receive it and go.
There are a few things the MV have over the sporter, the side charger and ambi bolt release. But some people don't enjoy the building part, they just want something nice and out of the box ready to rock. The folks at ATRS certainly cater to that market!
There are a few things the MV have over the sporter, the side charger and ambi bolt release. But some people don't enjoy the building part, they just want something nice and out of the box ready to rock. The folks at ATRS certainly cater to that market!
