Modern varmint vs bushmaster acr ?
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Love them both, very different ways to get the same job done. If you go ACR I would suggest the standard version converted to NR with a quality barrel though. Some of the barrels being offered these days are not going to provide the accuracy that you're used to with a MV. Stick to Herron Arms conversions if possible.
If you're anywhere around Edmonton PM me and we can try to line up a day and you can shoot my ACR.
If you're anywhere around Edmonton PM me and we can try to line up a day and you can shoot my ACR.
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Patt08
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I had an ACR a couple years ago. It's the only gun I still regret selling lol. When the funds allow i will be picking up a restricted one, and having Herron Arms do the NR conversion with a QUALITY barrel!. Then I'll be getting some RPM handguards to cut down on the weight!. I think they are great gun, minus the lack of available OEM parts up here.
I always thought that kind of sucked as well. But it feels fine.
I also had a Modern Varmint, and it was a fantastic rifle as well. I wouldn't hesitate to pick up a used one or maybe one of the "factory" versions.
I always thought that kind of sucked as well. But it feels fine.
I also had a Modern Varmint, and it was a fantastic rifle as well. I wouldn't hesitate to pick up a used one or maybe one of the "factory" versions.
Patt08
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I was in on the Arms East deal and had the super ACR trigger. Felt incredibly nice! That's also something I would spring for again. If i remember correctly dont AR triggers work as well as long as you bend a spring or something?
The ACR would be my choice. In fact I keep coming back to them. Eventually I will break down and buy one.
The modern varminter. Well I wouldn't rule it out, although I wouldn't ever consider the 308 version. DPMS does make some milspec parts for the AR15 unlike their AR308 LR-308 offerings. I know you can order the AR 15 DPMS BCG in milspec form as an OEM part which is what I suspect is the case with the "modern" firearms internals. Since the AR15 is very standardized, you are likely to have decent enough results with one. I wouldn't touch the 308 personally, but the 223/5.56 could be a possibility at least in terms of the build/design. The value and thoughts regarding the company are up to the individual buyer whether or not it's worth it to them.
In the Op's case he/she already has one. So I don't really think the ACR is going to offer anything over the MV in your case for most uses.
What's appealing to me about the acr. Is the ability to tear it down without any tools. I resently took my mv apart by more less accident. The barrel came lose while I was installing a new brake on it. I've no experience with ars before so I was nervous about putting back together. It was one heck of a job to get the barrel nut torqued back in place. The receiver doesn't fit a standard at vise block so I had to make one. Just that whole experience turned me off. Suppose it wouldn't be a problem if I had the correct tools to do my own work on the gun.
Ever any issues?
That's always a good start.
It's called a reaction rod. No big deal. Geissele makes a nice one. You can order through Brownell's. $99. You can use it when working on your ar's as well instead of using the upper receiver vice block.
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Nothing complicated about working on the MV. I've had mine torn apart and back together again a couple times to make some changes. A few little proprietary differences between the MV and an AR but the same principles apply. Nothing to be scared of.
Just wondering what you were doing while changing the muzzle brake that would cause the barrel nut to come loose? Last time I checked the barrel extension is pinned preventing any rotation of the barrel that could transfer into rotation of the barrel nut causing it to loosen. No need to have a wrench on the barrel nut while changing the muzzle brake either. Just curious as to what went wrong here.
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It's heavier and while there have been some good accuracy reports an quality aftermarket barrel will always outperform a factory offering.
It's a Magpul MOE grip.
I had a black ACR for a while and ran a couple thousand rounds through it without a single failure other than not seating the magazine fully a couple times, then traded that one off for a FDE model and have yet to have a failure with it. I've also built my own non restricted 300BLK conversion for it that runs perfectly.
I have no experience with a Modern Varmint but I do own a Hunter and it is a very nice rifle that I don't regret buying at all.
If you feel that strongly about the 308 version and it's use of DPMS parts (and since I know you like 308 AR's) you could always ask ATRS to build you one with a BCG of your choosing if you were to either supply it pre-build or pay extra for them to source it for you.
I know you have some other reasons as well for not buying one but if you do decide to do it I doubt you would regret it later. My MH in 6.5CM is very reliable with my handloads and I've got a load developed now that is printing consistently right around 1 moa and with some more work and maybe someone a little better behind the trigger I'm sure those groups will shrink.
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By the time someone has an equally comparable QUALITY NR barrel made and installed on the ACR the MV is actually the more affordable of the two.
Not bashing the ACR here (I don't own one but have been able to occasionally use one) but, you still have a plastic, bulky, more front heavy, piston driven, factory unsupported, somewhat un-customizeable more expensive toy. Don't get me wrong, the ACR is a nice gun but not nice enough to make me trade my MV for one.
