Modern Varminter?

DILLIGAF said:
I only paid 2200 for my NR ACR last year. :) Actually I think it was even less after I sold the extra stuff that was included with it.

I would never shell out 3g's for one, lol... Thats crazy. Heck even the prices of Tavors are out of hand...lol...

the MV has been on my shopping list for a long time, But I will also buy it used on the EE and let someone else take the hit on depreciation. :).
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$2200 for a non restricted is the best deal I've ever heard of. Well done, you'll make money on that one if you ever sell it.
 
I won't be selling any of my NR guns, They will be passed down to my son. I just hope I get a MV before the libtards change the rules again.
 
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onetwentyish said:
I have yet to shoot my newly aquired Swiss Arms Black Special flat top or HK SL8, but the ACR still feels far superior. The Swiss is a dated design and quite heavy.

The SL8 is also very heavy from factory, curious to see where I can take it with some modification.
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Sounds like you're acquiring a nice selection of NR Black Rifles.

I do like the SL8 (possibly the most accurate NR .223 Black rifle), it's really a toss up of either the HK or SA for me (however I do like the complete design of the SA a little more for personal reasons though). Ultimately the ATRS MV may be the go to rifle in the NR Black rifle segment, only time will tell.

However I would like to explain that my choice in my earlier post was directed at only myself and not as what's best for anyone else,
I apologize if I gave everyone the wrong idea.
A Swiss Arms Black Special/Classic Green is a rifle I prefer over the other NR Black rifles for many reasons, but particularly the overall design for my shooting preferences as I do not hike/hunt with these rifles (so weight really isn't an issue), I prefer to use Black Rifles for accuracy in different stationary positions (mostly prone) and rarely reach out past 300M with any firearms at the present.

Cheers D
 
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Sorry to hijack the thread a bit but I must ask where is the availability of the ACR as NR? All I see is the 16" barrel as an option which makes the gun restricted here.
I chose the MH which I should be getting the call soon from Rick and company. It was chosen because it is NR and has some tight tolerances. Yes it was nearly $5k like a well loaded MV will be.
 
Kiwiman1 said:
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit but I must ask where is the availability of the ACR as NR? All I see is the 16" barrel as an option which makes the gun restricted here.
I chose the MH which I should be getting the call soon from Rick and company. It was chosen because it is NR and has some tight tolerances. Yes it was nearly $5k like a well loaded MV will be.
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Arms East were selling NR ACR. Or you could buy R and send it off for rebarreling.
 
Kiwiman1 said:
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit but I must ask where is the availability of the ACR as NR? All I see is the 16" barrel as an option which makes the gun restricted here.
I chose the MH which I should be getting the call soon from Rick and company. It was chosen because it is NR and has some tight tolerances. Yes it was nearly $5k like a well loaded MV will be.
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The EE perhaps, at present I'm not aware of any stores offering NR ACR's.

They have been known to be available from companies such as Arms East (IIRC) from time to time as the business' would receive the restricted ACR's and then have them modified to NR status to be sold.
Other business' (Wolverine currently is selling Restricted ACR's) would simple sell them as restricted and leave it up to the buyer to have a business such as Herron Arms make the barrel change etc. to NR status if wanted.

Cheers D
 
Lungorthin said:
Without a stainless barrel? Looks really out of place
Asking because I'm in the market for one. Preferably new and with black barrel
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The only other options I see are, buy a new one and have it re barrelled for about $2900 and a wait period or buy a used one, like the one on the first page of the EE for $2925.
 
I have heard some people don't think the accuracy is up to par with the price your paying with the Modern Hunter and i'm sure that will be the same case when people start getting the Modern Varminter. But with that said you are buying a custom built rifle to your specifications that is non restricted and lets be real they are not called the Modern Benchrest Rifle and are also not called the Modern Battlefield Rifle either. But some think for the price your paying it should shoot single hole groups at 500 yards with surplus and bulk ammo. I might consider the Varminter tho if I get to the position where money wasn't a factor in my decision on a new rifle but until that day comes tho I am being more realistic and looking at the Ket-Tec SU-16 for a semi auto .223 :)
 
Ravage said:
I have heard some people don't think the accuracy is up to par with the price your paying with the Modern Hunter and i'm sure that will be the same case when people start getting the Modern Varminter. But with that said you are buying a custom built rifle to your specifications that is non restricted and lets be real they are not called the Modern Benchrest Rifle and are also not called the Modern Battlefield Rifle either. But some think for the price your paying it should shoot single hole groups at 500 yards with surplus and bulk ammo. I might consider the Varminter tho if I get to the position where money wasn't a factor in my decision on a new rifle but until that day comes tho I am being more realistic and looking at the Ket-Tec SU-16 for a semi auto .223 :)
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As all of our NR is used for hunting, plinking,target etc Accuracy is only important for what you use it for. Plinking , who cares, your SU16 will do a great job for you. Hunting or target shooting not so great as 2 and 3 MOA is not good enough for either.

As for the MV, I'm expecting MOA or better, for $3350 , it should do that. If not, off to the EE she goes.
 
Brianma65 said:
As all of our NR is used for hunting, plinking,target etc Accuracy is only important for what you use it for. Plinking , who cares, your SU16 will do a great job for you. Hunting or target shooting not so great as 2 and 3 MOA is not good enough for either.

As for the MV, I'm expecting MOA or better, for $3350 , it should do that. If not, off to the EE she goes.
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Serious question - I'm not trying to be confrontational - why isn't 2-3 MOA good enough for hunting? That's only 4-6 inches at 200 yards. That seems adequate for 30-06 or .308, although maybe not satisfactory if the rifle shooting it cost $3-4k+.
 
dkf said:
Serious question - I'm not trying to be confrontational - why isn't 2-3 MOA good enough for hunting? That's only 4-6 inches at 200 yards. That seems adequate for 30-06 or .308, although maybe not satisfactory if the rifle shooting it cost $3-4k+.
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I guess people hunt different ways and different animals. 6 inchs 200 yards on a yote is an easy miss , maybe good for a deer but I'm not sure. All my kills have been taken from a standing position ,so if my gun is 1 MOA off the bench it going to be probably 2 or 3 after walking , shouldering and firing. So if it's 2 MOA, then that would equate to 5 or 6 MOA. Make sense?

I personally would not keep any hunting rifle that couldn't shoot MOA, but maybe that's just me.
 
Brianma65 said:
As all of our NR is used for hunting, plinking,target etc Accuracy is only important for what you use it for. Plinking , who cares, your SU16 will do a great job for you. Hunting or target shooting not so great as 2 and 3 MOA is not good enough for either.

As for the MV, I'm expecting MOA or better, for $3350 , it should do that. If not, off to the EE she goes.
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Keep us posted as soon as you add it to EE because I'll snatch it up in a heartbeat and make it shoot.
 
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