Modular Hunting Cabin on the cheap. Looking to make my own.

Friend of mines dad built one using hinged 4x8 panels. End up with a 16x16 cabin that fits on a single axle flat deck trailer. The panels all lock together with ship dogs, which tighten as you use them. It's a very slick design, and nice to have a cabin with a floor and roof when winter kicks in. - dan
 
I tried it. And actually its very similar to what you're thinking of doing. It was 8x8 with a 6-8' slanted roof, 1/4'' OSB for the walls and 3/8'' for the floor. What I did was bolt the joining pieces together with carriage bolts, screw the roof down, fill the cracks with expanding foam, and volla. Only cost a couple hundred to be "imaginative".

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Never Again. Took it down in the spring and had a nice bon fire with the neighbors.

I'd have gone with plywood, a little more money, but about half the weight. ;)

My wolf blind from a few years ago, 2x2 framing and 3/8 ply. Assembly with screw gun and deck screws.

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Grizz
 
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Over the years, I've met countless of people in your predicament...every single one whose taken the wall tent route has NEVER regretted it!

Altough building your own cabin sounds exciting and fun, believe me it gets old very quick... Forget about using OSB, it's fragile and requires extra care, so now you're looking at a basic 2X2 plywood modular design. Don't know how far you have to drive but hauling a cabin on a trailer costs tons of gas and not to mention the trouble of storing it in the off season.

Altough a little pricey upfront a wall tent with a small stove and a bigazz tarp over it (as insurance) can weather the elements, is bright inside, has plenty of room for everyone and is a dry and toasty place to spend a week. It packs into something the size of a large hockey bag which gives you plenty of room to pack all the other essential camp items in your trailer.
 












I recommend a wall tent also, and get an internal metal frame (build your own or buy a kit). I toted a bunch of planks into our camp site and built a nice floor, which we've left at the site (obviously).
We've camped there a couple times, more trips to come.

With the wooden floor, I welded up a small stand for the stove to sit on. I put ~1" of sand in the bottom of the stove, to prevent the stove bottom from burning through.
I found the sand insulated the bottom so well, there was virtually no heat coming off the stove bottom. I put a piece of tin under it anyway. I'm all about overkill...
 
If it were me, I'd just buy an outfitters tent and a woodstove. I've been down the prefab road before, when neither myself or any of the guys I hunted with knew any better. Just an absolute PIA moving it, putting it together, tearing it down, and dragging it home again, and you'll still need to heat it.

Got my vote.

If you're going to be there a while, you could even make yourself a plywood floor to fit the tent. To my mind, that would be just as comfortable and a far easier build than a Lego hut.

Welcome to hunting, BTW. Good luck on your first hunt!
 
First off the sizes of 8x8 and 8x12 are away undersized for 2 men and 4-6 men. Remember you have to sleep, eat/cook, dry cloths, move about and socialize in this space, you are living in this space under adverse conditions for a week or so. Unless your all ### and madly love these sizes are away to small.

Take the good advice of all who have posted before me a buy a good wall tent with an good internal frame, a side vented smoke pipe hole so you can put 2 tarps over the whole roof. The second tarp should extend out over the front about 8ft so you can do your cooking out of the tent to keep the condensation issues to a minimum. A sheet metal oval shaped woodstove will meet all your heating needs, placed in the "middle" of the tent well away from the walls.

I hunted out of a 14' x 16' wall tent with 4 of us for 15 yrs. in all sorts of nasty weather including heavy wet snow on many occasions. When set up properly it can keep you as comfy as a any cabin. The 14'x16' size is the bare minimum for 4 men to hunt comfortably out of.
 
First off the sizes of 8x8 and 8x12 are away undersized for 2 men and 4-6 men. Remember you have to sleep, eat/cook, dry cloths, move about and socialize in this space, you are living in this space under adverse conditions for a week or so. Unless your all ### and madly love these sizes are away to small.

Take the good advice of all who have posted before me a buy a good wall tent with an good internal frame, a side vented smoke pipe hole so you can put 2 tarps over the whole roof. The second tarp should extend out over the front about 8ft so you can do your cooking out of the tent to keep the condensation issues to a minimum. A sheet metal oval shaped woodstove will meet all your heating needs, placed in the "middle" of the tent well away from the walls.

I hunted out of a 14' x 16' wall tent with 4 of us for 15 yrs. in all sorts of nasty weather including heavy wet snow on many occasions. When set up properly it can keep you as comfy as a any cabin. The 14'x16' size is the bare minimum for 4 men to hunt comfortably out of.

Spot-on regarding size!

Just for a cost comparison, Deluxe Wall Tents lists their 8'X10' for $950 and their 14'X16' for $1300. Tons more room for an extra $350, makes sense to go that route.
 
Spot-on regarding size!

Just for a cost comparison, Deluxe Wall Tents lists their 8'X10' for $950 and their 14'X16' for $1300. Tons more room for an extra $350, makes sense to go that route.

That's pretty darn reasonable cost wise!

Another idea is a used shipping container, particularily if you go the same place for several years. Pretty secure storage too.
 
Used shipping containers, plastic garages, etc. all lack one very important thing "VENTILATION" to let out "Warm Moist air", which results in "Condensation" on the inside of the enclosure when that warm moist air comes in contact with the cold surface of the enclosure.

That's why I mentioned in my first post to cover the wall tent in "two plastic tarps" and to do the cooking "out" of the living space. The two plastic tarps create a dead air space which helps insulate and traps the condensation on the outside of the tent against the plastic tarp so it runs down the outside of the tent as water. The molecules of water vapour will pass through the canvas tent as they are smaller that water molecules. Wood heat also helps the condensation issues as wood heat tends to be a dry heat.

If you don't believe me talk to any folks who have bought those "Shelter Logic" plastic garages at Canadian Tire and used them for hunting/cook tents. Ask if they had any condensation issues?? If there honest they will admit they had more problems with it raining inside the enclosure than outside.

I played this game for a lot of years in hunting shelters plus I was in the business of residential diagnostics. Most home issues are moisture related.
 
Used shipping containers, plastic garages, etc. all lack one very important thing "VENTILATION" to let out "Warm Moist air", which results in "Condensation" on the inside of the enclosure when that warm moist air comes in contact with the cold surface of the enclosure.

That's why I mentioned in my first post to cover the wall tent in "two plastic tarps" and to do the cooking "out" of the living space. The two plastic tarps create a dead air space which helps insulate and traps the condensation on the outside of the tent against the plastic tarp so it runs down the outside of the tent as water. The molecules of water vapour will pass through the canvas tent as they are smaller that water molecules. Wood heat also helps the condensation issues as wood heat tends to be a dry heat.



If you don't believe me talk to any folks who have bought those "Shelter Logic" plastic garages at Canadian Tire and used them for hunting/cook tents. Ask if they had any condensation issues?? If there honest they will admit they had more problems with it raining inside the enclosure than outside.

I played this game for a lot of years in hunting shelters plus I was in the business of residential diagnostics. Most home issues are moisture related.

Think you'll be hearing from the Authorities real quick, if you dump a shipping container in the woods. ;) Note to Demonical. Not supposed to leave permanent wooden floors either in Alberta. Enough garbage out there.

Grizz
 
I think that you'll find 8'x12' too small for 6 guys. A 12x14 wall tent is comfortable for 4 guys for a week but more duration of people will tax that space pretty hard. Remember, as the number of guys goes up so does the amount of kit required. Given that you are restricted in Ontario to a maximum width of 8'6" you might want to consider more length. Unless you install submarine-style bunks it will be pretty hard to get 6 guys bunked up in a trailer. Bunks would have to go across the end and on an adjacent wall, or on both ends with common space in the middle. Hard to have them on opposite walls if you figure that you'll lose nearly 12" from the total width for the thickness of the walls.

I'd ditch the modular idea and just go with the larger size. There are few circumstances where you'll say to yourself "man, I wish this camp was smaller".
 
When I read the title, I thought to myself, "This guy needs a wall tent." Gee, I see I am only the 24th person to think that.............

A few thoughts:

1. Bigger is always better, if you can afford it and move it.

2. About the first thing I think about after warm/dry is how to dry out wet clothing. I have been at this game for about fifty years, and if you can't get your clothing dry, you are going to suffer in the cold. Period. I don't care how freakin' tough you think you are. Cold and wet equals miserable.

3. I do know people who can live in mountaineering tents, carry all of their gear on their backs, and be perfectly happy. None of them are hunters, and none of my hunting buddies even vaguely resembles this. Please see again note number 1.

4. Cook outside unless you have a permanent structure. Not only do you get the condensation issues, as has been pointed out, you also get food smells into your clothing AND you advertise a lunch bar for Mister Bear.

5. Did I mention that bigger is always better? Four men (or two, or six, or whatever) in cramped quarters equals unhappiness, no matter how well the men know, like, and respect each other.

Good luck to you.

Doug
 


I recommend a wall tent also, and get an internal metal frame (build your own or buy a kit). I toted a bunch of planks into our camp site and built a nice floor, which we've left at the site (obviously).
We've camped there a couple times, more trips to come.

With the wooden floor, I welded up a small stand for the stove to sit on. I put ~1" of sand in the bottom of the stove, to prevent the stove bottom from burning through.
I found the sand insulated the bottom so well, there was virtually no heat coming off the stove bottom. I put a piece of tin under it anyway. I'm all about overkill...

Wow, that brings back some memories. Had the same setup when I lived in Northern western Ontario. Once setup, it was a great place to stay, always warm, comfortable. Most importantly, there was lots of space, very important since you live, eat, sleep with the same group for an extended period of time, often without a shower for days..

The addition on a wooden floor was huge. Prior to the floor, it was merely a large tarp that was always the same temp as the ground. With the floor, kept the tent warmer, easier on the feet and gear, and made a more level platform for cots.

We also kept 2 tents, one for sleeping/dining/card playing/bull####ting, etc, and a second tent for our cook tent. Cook tent was only heated with a propane heater, since it was usually vented by keeping the door open for cooking, and the propane heater provided a lot of heat for a little time we would spend in there. Also, food stayed cooler in there since it was usually outside air temp. It was not nearly as fancy as our main tent, and didn't have to be since only an hour or so a day was spent in there. It was nothing more than a tarp shed contraption to block the wind and rain. We stayed on an island, but if on the mainland, animals will be more attracted to the unoccupied tent than the occupied one at night ;)

However, it takes a good day of assembly to put these things today. I say that, because we stayed waaaay out in the bush, and to bring every single thing we needed, and repeat trips back and forth were not feasible and extremely time consuming. We stayed in a place only accessible by boat that took several hours to get to, and didn't have the luxury of a lot of tools/supplies to make adjustments or changes. However, we modified it every year we went, and things improved with time and we became more efficient with practice.

However, if you can't afford the time, and are planning on staying somewhere that is road accessible, I would highly suggest finding an old enclosed trailer and converting to a camper setup. I'm planning on this very thing as we speak, having just purchased one. There is room for 4 cots to be setup quite easily, led interior lighting, shelving installed in the V nose, and plenty of space for personal goods. For travelling, we can pack in two quads, BBQ and cooking supplies, everything needed for the trip. On reaching destination, we can unloaded all the gear, setup cooking outside in a makeshift cook tent, setup personal effects inside, and use the rollout awning for outdoor space. When the hunt is over, everything is packed back up and away you go. Setup time should take no more than an hour or two, your residence is warm, dry and protected from the elements. Its lightweight, easily transportable and can serve multiple roles.
 
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