moisin nagant.. any good

i love mine. They multiply though

Mine has killed deer and moose with no trouble. the rough bolt is easily fixed by polishing the engagement surfaces slightly and tuning the extractor. The only problem is it is hard to have just one. Buy it, come to the darkside.
 
Bucheron, what do you want to do with it might be more to the point?

Hunt deer? Get a 44 carbine and have at it.
Collect Milsurps? Sky is open here. It was made from the USA to Russia and used globally from what 1895-1950???
Rifle for the Zombie Apocalypse?
Target Shoot? Sniper models galore.
Butcher and Bubbaffy? Please ask the milsurp folks here before you cut and destroy a special keeper.
 
Look for one of the Finnish variants. They shoot very well. Some yrs ago I let a guy at the old Cornwall, ON gunshow twist my arm to take a Finnish M27 for $60.:eek: I always thought they were the "Ugly Bettys" of MILSURPS, but what a surprise on the range. Mine has a Tikka barrel and shoots .308 bullets in handloads very well.
 
They are rough and tough and they will work in any weather conditions you can even imagine and they are a ballistic duplicate of a .30-'06, just using a .303 slug.

If you are reloading, ammo costs the same 60 cents a shot as just about any of the others and, with a little care, it can be match-grade stuff. For super-cheap practise ammo, use the C.E. Harris "Universal" load: 13 grains of Red Dot under a 180 CAST bullet. This costs under 20 cents a shot, it's on the mild side and it gives you 2 MOA out to 300 without blackening your shoulder.

Points to remember:
1. It DOES have a safety, although the thing can be miserable to apply.

2. For best feeding, operate the action smartly: no gentling of Gospodin Mosin's rifle. Four full motions of the bolt and they will hardly EVER mis-feed. They only mis-feed if they are gentled or short-stroked.

3. You can load the rifle very quickly with the charger, but the charger itself must be loaded correctly. The correct way is with the rounds in a 'pyramid', outside rounds against the charger base, inner rounds standing on their rims, inmost round standing on the rims of the two inner rounds. It looks like this: _-'-_. That's not MY way of doing it; that's the Russian Army's way of doing it. Good chance that they knew something about these rifles.

4. Playing with one with a good barrel, you CAN get an honest 1.5 MOA out of one without spending the family fortune, sometimes even less. That's not bad for a war baby which was made under the most hideous of conditions and now is old enough for the Old Age Pension.

5. The only point I can really think of AGAINST the Moisin-Nagant (and I'm trying!) is that it's not one of my precious Rosses and it's not a Lee-Enfield. Apart from that (irremediable) failure, you won't find a tougher rifle anywhere.
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LOL I love it. :D

BTW that's a cosy looking couch. :)
 
here is my only Mosin:

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a Polish M44, made in 1953.
the gun is beautifully finished and in brandnew condition.
some say, that these are the best Mosins ever built.
I have no idea, because it is like i said my only Mosin and there is nothing to compare it to.
 
lawn gnome said:
Bucheron, what do you want to do with it might be more to the point?

Hunt deer? Get a 44 carbine and have at it.
Collect Milsurps? Sky is open here. It was made from the USA to Russia and used globally from what 1895-1950???
Rifle for the Zombie Apocalypse?
Target Shoot? Sniper models galore.
Butcher and Bubbaffy? Please ask the milsurp folks here before you cut and destroy a special keeper.
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The M44 was made up until 1957 in Poland and was later produced in china as the T57? The 91/30 sniper was used in limited quantities in Vietnam with an infrared night scope.

The cartridge interupter is supposed to keep the rimmed cases free of jambs, the beveled rear of the case is to keep the rimmed case centered in the chamber for more accuracy. The only drawback is the forward positioning of the bolt knob wich limits rapid cycling somewhat but also necessitates an open bridge, side mounted scope and bent bolt for sniper duty. The gun was made to be reliable, accurate, easily used with winter gear, damn near indestructible.
Sako started out its company referbing old(dropped) Mosins!
BTW Polaris; I love your 53. It looks just like my polish 55. Did yours have bluing on the inside of the chamber? How's its bedding? I think I was the first to fire mine. Sweet looker!
 
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I've never shot a 30-06; I know it's hard to believe. Somehow I thought that they had slightly more jam than 7.62 X 54R. I find that my M/N 91/30 hits where it is supposed to with irons, but when I use a scope I'm slightly amazed at the drop in the trajectory. I'm no expert; but I have put a crate through it, shot a few deer too. I sight mine in for 100 paces with a scope, but even with Kentuky windage it brings in hits on the low side.
And please, spare me the " I only take one bullet with me when I go hunting" stories.
 
To the OP: I paid $160 at Ellwood Epps a few years back for a beat up 1942 Mosin and it is one of the most accurate rifles I own. As long as the headspace and bore are good to go, you're golden.

Don't believe me? Judge for yourself:

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A 100m grouping with some handloads, the two fliers are unrelated ;) :
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You'll want to shoot it with the bayonet on... for giggles. Yes, the sling was on backwards. Oops.

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I find they shoot high without the bayonet on them, which the common practice was to leave the bayo on all the time as the rifle was designed to shoot. Since the front sight is not adjustable, I made a little tube extension from some heat shrink raise an extra millimeter and everything shoots fine with that.
 
Here's my small Mosin Nagant family,from left to right

-M91/30 PU sniper repro 1942
-M91 Izhevsk imperial 1915 dated
-M91/30 Izhevsk 1928 with octogonal receiver
-finnish M91/30 with Tikka barrel 1943
-polish M44 unissued,unfired 1955
So far i have only shot the M91 and the finnish M91/30 and they shoot very good!
Hope to zero the sniper very soon:)
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smellie said:
Playing with one with a good barrel, you CAN get an honest 1.5 MOA out of one without spending the family fortune, sometimes even less. That's not bad for a war baby which was made under the most hideous of conditions and now is old enough for the Old Age Pension.
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I've read that the Ruskies got manufacturing time on the MN down to 7 hours of machine time per rifle vs 35+ hours of machine time for a M-98.
 
thanks a lot everyone,

i cant belive how you guys are helpfull, all with good, answer, smart,mature coments and cozy pictures hahaha ..... as iam french canadian( please excuse my english) ( and i may not get anymore comments) hahahaha you guys are WAY more reliable that my fellows giving me crap and unrelated answer.

i mainly want to do target shooting and maybe deer hunting.

there are words that i dont understant :Butcher, Bubbaffy, and galore.

this is the one i plan to buy with the scope http://psmilitaria.50megs.com/mosin.html

please give me your impression

thanks you very much all again

Guillaume
 
Buy from a site sponsor instead (by the way you can't post links to non-sponsors) www.westrifle.com, got mine from them, excellent product (prices are same as the one you posted)

Dmitri
bucheron said:
thanks a lot everyone,

i cant belive how you guys are helpfull, all with good, answer, smart,mature coments and cozy pictures hahaha ..... as iam french canadian( please excuse my english) ( and i may not get anymore comments) hahahaha you guys are WAY more reliable that my fellows giving me crap and unrelated answer.

i mainly want to do target shooting and maybe deer hunting.

there are words that i dont understant :Butcher, Bubbaffy, and galore.

this is the one i plan to buy with the scope http://psmilitaria.50megs.com/mosin.html

please give me your impression

thanks you very much all again

Guillaume
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bucheron said:
there are words that i dont understant :Butcher, Bubbaffy, and galore.
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Bubbafy means committing the horrible sin of desecrating a historical surplus rifle by using Dremels and other barbarous instruments to inexpertly turn it into an ugly parody of a sporting rifle, when there are perfectly affordable used or inexpensive sporting guns available. It's synonymous with butcher.

There is a special hell reserved for people who bubba milsurps.

PS Militaria are reportedly good to deal with. I've bought two Mosins from TradeEx (see their ad on top of the page) and have been extremely satisfied with their service and the rifles.
 
I can't wait to get mine , should arrive this week. Praying the wife isnt home when the courier arrives

I bought surplus ammo for it over two months ago when a shop had some in stock, been sitting on it for too long!!

Has anyone tried the new ( non surplus ) ammo through these beasts?
 
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