Monte carlo stock or not

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OK you got me there. Don't hold your breath waiting for an apology for the bogus callout though.
 
I didn't see that one coming ......

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I like this one better than your--- 275 Rugby
 
It depends on the rifle, scope, and mounting solution for me. I'm really fond of the Peak 44 stock on the new Weatherby rifles, it's more of a negative comb and gets you right up into the scope. I also like the Weatherby Monte Carlo style as the comb itself is also angled away. Outside of those, I typically prefer flat top, high comb stocks.
 
Two points of contact are the cheek and the shoulder, the Monte Carlo increases the vertical distance of these two points. Line-of-sight/eye-above-bore is the same with a straight stock or Monte Carlo, but the end of the stock where the butt plate is is lowered. People with longer necks may find a Monte Carlo more comfortable, people with short necks may like the standard stock better.

The stock contacts the shoulder, that is the base-line. The increase in vertical distance with the Monte Carlo means the bore line is higher. Heavy recoiling rifles tend to pivot at the shoulder, rotating enough that recoil is transferred to the cheek more than a straight stock.
Not so. the vertical distance of the bore above the shoulder is establish by the drop at the heel, not the height of the comb.
 
To carry this further, a straight stock, like the Ruger or the Remington classic, without much drop at the heel, requires the shooter to drop the head down and forward to establish contact with the comb. If not,, in order to establish contact with the comb, the butt is located too high on the shoulder and the top third may actually be above the shoulder. So, the Monte Carlo allows one to establish the comb at a comfortable height while placing the butt in full contact with the shoulder. The downside of this is that the rifle will tend to rotate upward with recoil. This causes the shooter to snivel about his bruised cheekbone. There are two remedies for this. The first, which will help somewhat, is to pitch the muzzle down a bit. The second is to man-up and embrace the pain!
People who do most of their shooting off the bench will be well served by a straight, classic-styled stock. Those who shoot a lot prone, with a low mounted scope, will be fine with a straight stock as well. Those who shoot off hand will be better served by a well designed monte carlo. Virtually all custom silhouette feature high combs but considerable drop at the heel because that works best for off-hand shooting.
Those who shoot prone but us a high mounted, big scope, will appreciate a high comb which supports the weight of their head and aligns them with the scope.
I like Monte Carlo stocks, and like the look of a well executed one; with or without a cheekpiece. I also like the look of the straight, classic stock and have rifles with both types of stock.
 
Not so. the vertical distance of the bore above the shoulder is establish by the drop at the heel, not the height of the comb.

Reading this and your following post I think we said the same thing. The comb of both the Monte Carlo and straight stock positions the eye with the sights, when a Monte Carlo is used the heel is lowered thus increasing vertical distance.
 
My hunting rifles are mostly pre-64 M70's with both straight comb and monte carlo stocks. I adjust the scope height accordingly and everything is good. Hard to beat the pre-64 NRA straight comb stock and that is my preference.
 
I've only one rifle now with a monte carlo stock. Me LE sporter that I done up yrs back in .32-40 Win which is super nice for pest plopping & plinkin' with hardcast loads.

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I have a few shotguns. I have to say I don't care whether Monte Carlo or straight comb. I adjust my head position without giving it too much conscious thought.
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