I think the key words here are "shouldering a scoped rifle". I have a big head and a long neck. I have found that as my gun collection shifts and changes all my rifles have a monte carlo stock. they just make the ability to to see through the scope properly better for me. As for recoil, I never notice it at all when I am shooting at something with fur on it
Monte Carlo vs Classic Recoil?
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I think the key words here are "shouldering a scoped rifle". I have a big head and a long neck. I have found that as my gun collection shifts and changes all my rifles have a monte carlo stock. they just make the ability to to see through the scope properly better for me. As for recoil, I never notice it at all when I am shooting at something with fur on it
Most Monte Carlos dig me in the cheek. I can't stand the Sako 75 Monte Carlo stocks, I was working up a load for my buddy using his Sako 300WM and thinking about how I'd prefer to be shooting a .375 or .416, as I was getting smacked around with that damn laminated stock. Never felt such recoil from such a heavy gun in a medium chamber.
That's interesting, they are my favourite stock. Remember the model 70 30-06 PF I sold your buddy? Your comment to me was how badly the stock fit you, fit me like a glove...lol
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dpopl8r,
So, have you shot it yet, and when do we get to see pictures. Ultralightweight is a relative term, they are light compared to a Mark V Deluxe or an outboard motor but about the same as many standard rifles.
So, have you shot it yet, and when do we get to see pictures.
Ultralightweight is a relative term, they are light compared to a Mark V Deluxe or an outboard motor but about the same as many standard rifles.
I've given up trying to analyze this. Everybody has a different idea as to which type of stock works best for them, complete with very logical and well-considered opinions as to why it works. Nobody agrees on anything. I think that there are way too many variables in body sizes and types and shooting styles for there to be a quick and easy answer.
For years I loved the Classic look, and shot nothing else. When I finally tried a Weatherby it was a revelation. That ugly Monte Carlo made recoil just go away...for me. I picked up a few more Monte Carlos and found that they all worked well to reduce felt recoil. Sakos were great, Remingtons a bit less great, Weatherbys were absolutely fantastic. They all worked well and looked like s**t.
Then I recently started to use a Blaser R93. Dead straight stock, and quite lightweight to boot. In .375 H&H, I was expecting the worst. Surprise! The lightest-kicking .375 I've ever had (It's the 6th I've owned)!!!! No ugly Monte Carlo!! Too bad everything else on the gun is ugly. But it is the perfect shooter...for me.
Bottom line: Listen to everyone. Believe no-one. If possible, try before you buy. Good luck.
For years I loved the Classic look, and shot nothing else. When I finally tried a Weatherby it was a revelation. That ugly Monte Carlo made recoil just go away...for me. I picked up a few more Monte Carlos and found that they all worked well to reduce felt recoil. Sakos were great, Remingtons a bit less great, Weatherbys were absolutely fantastic. They all worked well and looked like s**t.
Then I recently started to use a Blaser R93. Dead straight stock, and quite lightweight to boot. In .375 H&H, I was expecting the worst. Surprise! The lightest-kicking .375 I've ever had (It's the 6th I've owned)!!!! No ugly Monte Carlo!! Too bad everything else on the gun is ugly. But it is the perfect shooter...for me.
Bottom line: Listen to everyone. Believe no-one. If possible, try before you buy. Good luck.
dpopl8r,
So, have you shot it yet, and when do we get to see pictures.
The 300 wby is part of a friends collection, and I am still humming and hawing. It's one thing to get a good deal on a rifle, but then a new scope, rings, bases, dies, brass, etc. Good deals quickly turn into lot's of $$.
From the posts in this article, I am definitely interested in the monte carlo stock and big magnums. Thanks all.
This is my take FWIW, a stock should compliment the primary type of sighting equipment you intend to use scope / open vs. your style preference. A rfle stock with a scope needs to place your face (cheek) higher and of course open sights you need to get lower. The whole idea is to give your cheek a firm resting place so the recoil does not send the stock up and "slam" your cheek. More drop the tends to make the muzzle to climb during recoil and vice versa the straighter the stock the more the recoil is straight back. The best of course is to have a stock fitted in the style you like - most cannot go for this option due to the $ involved in a custom stock. I have always picked guns that please my eyes - I have to live what the D-- thing for awhile anyway and work out a comfortably placed sight system with high / low mouts / etc. --- John303.
I just finished a 2 day, 130 shot load workup with a .300 Weatherby, ultra lightweight. Nobody died.
I find it depends a lot on the shooter. I actually have a very strong preference for the Weatherby stock design. It just feels natural. I find I am more accurate and roll easier with the recoil, and the fit lines me up really quick when the rifle comes to my shoulder. They just fit me really well and it's evident in the comfort and perceived recoil to me. It is not so to other shooters, my Dad included, who felt my 8.5 pound .257 Weatherby Vanguard kicked harder than my 8 pound 7mm Rem Mag Model 700.
