TheHowitzer
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- Calgary, Alberta
Bolt all the way! Personally I perfer bigger than .308, like .300wm or .338wm, but that's just me !
Moose rifle?
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BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I'm coming around, slowly but surely. Still having a hard time rationalizing spending $300 on apples to bait deer into a stand but I'm getting there. Damned bush here is as thick as the 'Nam. Might have to invest in a 760 In 35 Whelen or something else in a prototypical "woods cartridge". Maybe a 358 Win with a 6.5-20x scope in see through rings. That would be the ticket for sure!
You are not there yet...
You will know you have arrived when you acknowledge (in writing on a public forum)... that the only gun you will ever need again is an iron sighted Win 94 Pre-64 in .30/30...
On the upside, the relief and freedom that comes with that admission is pure gold!
Ain't those see thru's just oh so special. When I had my shop on very rare occasion I would get something in with a set of those on it. Turning away work is not the way to float a shop, but. Geesus the sight of those things. The best. Oh get this. Homer's dedicated big game gun. I'll remember it till my death. slug gun. Smooth bore Mossberg. OK inaccurate to start. Hold on. See thru's not meant for the gun so extra holes to get it on with an old lyman 4X on top. My wife took that in while I was out. My first thought was to use it in an unmentionable way but I don't think I would have connected. After all by that time she was 10 feet away from me. Instruction on card
"PLEASE ACCURIZE FOR ME"
You have to like it when a move to a new location requires the acquiring of numerous guns just so one fits in with the local populace. Hate to make waves - better buy a "bush gun".
All I know is last time I went the range with a couple of buddies to sight in moose rifles, at the end of the day we put three ballons (one each) on the 200yd backstops. I shot all three off hand standing with 3 shots while they where on the bench breathing and practicing trigger control. They never got a shot off. Reminton 7600, .308. I put that $hit on everything!
oh well "balloon accuracy" is hard to beat
I guess you missed the point so I'll draw the picture for you. Three rapid shots on target from a standing position = more meat in the freezer than being able to shoot it's eye out if it happens to stand there long enough to get a shot off with the supper accurate bolt.
Oh no I got it. Was trying not to be rude (there's time I can't get back). In short we call that "spray and pray" where I come from. I don't give jack about water pump speed. I don't give jack about balloons . I give jack about each and every individual round going EXACTLY where intended. Try speeding up Your bolt cycling a bit then You'll have accuracy and speed. Won't that be a treat? Ever heard the saying "First get good then get fast" . They may have been referring to accuracy higher than minute of balloon
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I would rather have a sore ass than shoot three moose at once.
But then again, with my iron-sighted Pre64 Model 1894 30-30 Rifle and steady nerves I could dump almost a half-score of mooses. Truly, the only rifle I should ever need again...
...in Nova Scotia.
I once had a chance encounter with a Mr Miculek (some may have heard that name) It's exaggeration to say he was talking to me personally. It was more I over heard him giving a group advice how to better shoot during an actual hunt. He said, and I'll quote as best I can.
"For about a month before your hunt take the gun you'll be bringing and leave it where it's easy to get to. thumb tac a piece of paper with a dot on it at one end of the hall in your house. Stand at the other end each night and with the scope at it's lowest setting dry fire on that dot 5-6 times. At the end of the month You will be in control of that particular trigger"
I do before every hunt. Like I said the first shot is death, and the second gets snapped in and usually never fired, unless a second animal.
Yes Mr. Plumber You can get quick enough with a bolt to engage a second. That's OK there was a time I would have bet a person couldn't as well.
"For about a month before your hunt take the gun you'll be bringing and leave it where it's easy to get to. thumb tac a piece of paper with a dot on it at one end of the hall in your house. Stand at the other end each night and with the scope at it's lowest setting dry fire on that dot 5-6 times. At the end of the month You will be in control of that particular trigger"
I do before every hunt. Like I said the first shot is death, and the second gets snapped in and usually never fired, unless a second animal.
Yes Mr. Plumber You can get quick enough with a bolt to engage a second. That's OK there was a time I would have bet a person couldn't as well.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I just rewatched the video of my bison hunt after you posted that. The time between my first shot (kneeling) and my second shot (standing) was about 3 seconds. My third shot was 7 seconds after that because I wasn't sure if he would go down or not (the second shot stopped him and he was starting to wobble but one can never be too sure). The third shot dropped him but I had to give him one more in the back of the head to end it. The first shot was at 37 meters (lasered after the fact) and the subsequent ones were much closer as he ran across the trail and toward us. At that range it was a little like pumping rounds into a billboard but I put the last two shots within 4" of each other so I'm good with that given the moving target.
Maybe SuperCub and I shout shoot against the timer. He has a jerk-o-matic in 35 Whelen IIRC which would compare favourably against my bolt in 366 Wagner. I wonder how the timer would judge 3 or 4 rounds from the standing on a 25m plate.
New CGN challenge...25m standing offhand 4 hits on a 10" plate on the shot timer.
One of the last moose I shot was exceptionally large (of the ones I've taken any way). It was 150ish yds cutting the corner of a cut block on a fast trot. I had to stand up a stump to get a shot above the new growth but I knew where he was heading, I've been in there and don't want to go back. I wanted him shut down right there. He was in the open for less than 10 seconds and he got 2 in ribs, both double lung hits about 2 inches apart and a third just under his antler to knock him off his feet. I knew after the first two, once he was down he wasn't getting back up.
That was moose #7 for that rifle and just over 900lbs the 4 quarters hanging when they went into the cooler.
That was moose #7 for that rifle and just over 900lbs the 4 quarters hanging when they went into the cooler.
You clearly have no idea how well the 760 and 7600s group and how reliable they are. I`ve never heard anyone say spray and pray, when referring to a pump rifle, until now............what a maroon
Gotta agree. Between that, and putting a gd red dot on belgium bar? puke!!!
