Moose shot at 1100 yards

What a bunch of Nancies!! Keep picking away at the guy who made a shot that you could NEVER make. Now it's down to ear protection for his kid and leaving her in the bush by herself to be attacked by bears?????? Do I even dare to ask what's next?? I wonder how many pairs of sox he had on his daughter. I know in my neck of the woods it doesn't matter how far the moose is, even 50 yards is enough to make a father go 'Bush ' and forget to dress his kid at all.

How many of you critics have ever taken or know anyone who has taken a youngster hunting and neglected the kid. Give me a friggin' break.

His gun's not big enough, it's too far. it might move, he neglects his child waaa! waaa! waa!

He missed the shot, he didn't plan to spine it. He hit too far back.

Well did he really??? Or did he just hit it in the spine aft of the hump? Spine an animal and it doesn't break in half at the POI.

This moose was likely shot just aft of the hump in the spine and sat down. I see nothing to indicate anything different.

You girls from the 'Stitch and #####" need to get a life.

Here's a guy who takes his kid hunting and form his other videos, not the first time. He makes a tough shot and is successful. Dresses the moose and loads it himself, and yet some here can only try to find something negative to say.
 
Redfrog said:
What a bunch of Nancies!! Keep picking away at the guy who made a shot that you could NEVER make. Now it's down to ear protection for his kid and leaving her in the bush by herself to be attacked by bears?????? Do I even dare to ask what's next?? I wonder how many pairs of sox he had on his daughter. I know in my neck of the woods it doesn't matter how far the moose is, even 50 yards is enough to make a father go 'Bush ' and forget to dress his kid at all.

How many of you critics have ever taken or know anyone who has taken a youngster hunting and neglected the kid. Give me a friggin' break.

His gun's not big enough, it's too far. it might move, he neglects his child waaa! waaa! waa!

He missed the shot, he didn't plan to spine it. He hit too far back.

Well did he really??? Or did he just hit it in the spine aft of the hump? Spine an animal and it doesn't break in half at the POI.

This moose was likely shot just aft of the hump in the spine and sat down. I see nothing to indicate anything different.

You girls from the 'Stitch and #####" need to get a life.

Here's a guy who takes his kid hunting and form his other videos, not the first time. He makes a tough shot and is successful. Dresses the moose and loads it himself, and yet some here can only try to find something negative to say.
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Well said!

One thing that I wonder, is how everyone is so positive that he spined it? I watched the vid, and didn't notice Trevor say that it was hit in the spine.....And on HBC, he never mentioned spining it as far as I saw. Could be wrong, and just never noticed, but its something I wonder about.

If people are judging it by the moose' reaction to the shot, every critter reacts differently and its never the same twice. I watched one moose take a round to the lungs that reacted reeeaaaallly similiarly, and one that took 3 through the lungs that showed no reaction what so ever.....

And in the vid, there is an awful lot of blood around that moose' mouth and nose. That DOESN'T happen from a spine shot.

All you armchair quarterbacks that want to sling #### at him, go to his youtube page and ask him directly if you have questions instead of maligning his character for taking his kid out with him.
 
BlazinDayz said:
Ifs he's an ardent shooter who knows his limitations then good shot. I'm be a bit more concerned about leaving his toddler unattended(possibly, given that i see no one else in the vid) in bear country with a fresh kill.
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Seeing where you live I can see your concern for unattended children, but this video wasn't taken at Higgins and Main. ;)
 
KodiakHntr said:
Well said!

One thing that I wonder, is how everyone is so positive that he spined it? I watched the vid, and didn't notice Trevor say that it was hit in the spine.....And on HBC, he never mentioned spining it as far as I saw. Could be wrong, and just never noticed, but its something I wonder about.

And in the vid, there is an awful lot of blood around that moose' mouth and nose. That DOESN'T happen from a spine shot.

All you armchair quarterbacks that want to sling s**t at him, go to his youtube page and ask him directly if you have questions instead of maligning his character for taking his kid out with him.
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It is obvious you have never seen many animals shot.
An immediate collapse of the rear end, is sure sign of spine shot at the hind quarters. Especially when it is noticeable the moose is unable to move his hind quarters after being down
The blood around the head is likely from him shooting it in the head or neck, after he got there.
I am not the slightest bit interested in talking to him, or asking him anything.
The stunt was so he could get on Yu Tube, nothing else.
Was this his first try, or did he miss or wound, other moose.
 
H4831 said:
It is obvious you have never seen many animals shot.
An immediate collapse of the rear end, is sure sign of spine shot at the hind quarters. Especially when it is noticeable the moose is unable to move his hind quarters after being down
The blood around the head is likely from him shooting it in the head or neck, after he got there.
I am not the slightest bit interested in talking to him, or asking him anything.
The stunt was so he could get on Yu Tube, nothing else.
Was this his first try, or did he miss or wound, other moose.
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I dunno, I've only a couple hundred big game kills to my credit so far, and maybe the same in watching/hunting with other guys, so I guess in the big scheme of things I'm not up there with a lot of guys, but I've seen a few tipped over.......

If you notice, looking at the video, its not an "immediate collapse" of the rear end. Its the moose hopping up with his back legs kicking forward STIFF, not immediately discombobulated as would be expected from a spinal cord hit, and the moose rolling over backwards. (Which, I've only personally experienced on 4 moose kills. YMMV)

I'm not sure how you are able to see that he is unable to lift his hind quarters, as the moose is square on in the video when he's laying there paddling his feet. And it certainly looks to me when I expand it, that the bull is paddling ALL FOUR feet......

And still, you will not get blood coming out of the mouth and nose in that volume from a head or neck shot. Heart has to be pumping to get a few litres of blood to come out of the mouth and nose. And to get into the circulatory system in the first place it has to come from the lungs. Thats how an ungulate's body works.

Its too bad you've made up your mind from an edited video about someone's intent, but it really doesn't surprise me given some of your closeminded posts on other topics.

Personally, I figure it was a hell of a shot.
 
It is basically up to the hunter what he finds ethical and what his shooting skill is. Last fall my brother and I spotted a moose 1000 yds away down a cut line broadside. I have a 300 win mag with vx3 scope, years of shooting experience and hunting trips. I could have ethically made the shot in my eyes, but I chose to call the moose to me for the real hunting rush. We called him in to 160 yards then waited for a broadside killshot which went as planned, one shot one kill
 
It is obvious you have never seen many animals shot.
An immediate collapse of the rear end, is sure sign of spine shot at the hind quarters. Especially when it is noticeable the moose is unable to move his hind quarters after being down
The blood around the head is likely from him shooting it in the head or neck, after he got there.
The stunt was so he could get on Yu Tube, nothing else.
Was this his first try, or did he miss or wound, other moose.


Everyone of these statements is an assumption except this one where you do not want to be confused by the facts.:onCrack: Says a lot for your credibility nad opinion.

I am not the slightest bit interested in talking to him, or asking him anything.

Maybe this will help clear it up for you.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=not+as+it+seems&docid=765232023007&first=21&mid=C7B65985A03DEF7DD031C7B65985A03DEF7DD031&FORM=LKVR29#
 
One thing is for certain:

When a moose collapses on a broadside shot, it is not a double lung. The options are:
-spine
-head
-antlers
-possibly legs, but you'd have to get both front or both rear

I've seen moose hit broadside with many calibers up to 460 Wby. None collapsed at the shot and none were 1200 yards.
 
KodiakHntr said:
And still, you will not get blood coming out of the mouth and nose in that volume from a head or neck shot. Heart has to be pumping to get a few litres of blood to come out of the mouth and nose. And to get into the circulatory system in the first place it has to come from the lungs. Thats how an ungulate's body works.
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I beg to differ. I've seen many animals shot in the neck and when you hit the jugular, there's blood everywhere. Same with a head shot.

FWIW, the heart actually goes on pumping blood for some time after a head/spine shot. How do you think butchers bleed cattle/pigs when they get the stud gun in the head?
 
bearkilr said:
One thing is for certain:

When a moose collapses on a broadside shot, it is not a double lung. The options are:
-spine
-head
-antlers
-possibly legs, but you'd have to get both front or both rear

I've seen moose hit broadside with many calibers up to 460 Wby. None collapsed at the shot and none were 1200 yards.
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So what I'm hearing you say, is that because in your experience you've never seen a moose collapse on a double lung shot, that should minimize the one's that my experience has shown that to happen?

Is that correct?

Because if so, maybe you aren't factoring bullet construction into your equation. From what my personal experience has shown is that less strongly constructed bullets will flat out drop animals on the spot at times. And for that matter, youtube is littered with videos showing identical results as what is shown on Trev's video.

My only point is that there is only one guy who knows for sure where that bull was hit, and I have yet to see anyone ask him. And there is absolutely nothing in that video that anyone could look at and conclusively say this bull was hit here, and be right. None of us were there. Simple fact.
 
bearkilr said:
I beg to differ. I've seen many animals shot in the neck and when you hit the jugular, there's blood everywhere. Same with a head shot.

FWIW, the heart actually goes on pumping blood for some time after a head/spine shot. How do you think butchers bleed cattle/pigs when they get the stud gun in the head?
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Sure if you hit an artery or vein theres blood everywhere. However, to get blood coming out of the mouth and nose with a neck shot you STILL have to have trauma to the airway at the same time. If you cut your wrist with a tablesaw and bleed to death, you aren't going to be bleeding from the mouth "just because".......

I grew up on a farm. I'm very aware of exactly what it looks like when an animal is stunned and bled out from having its throat cut.

However, this doesn't have any bearing on a hell of a nice shot, or a bunch of guys trying to run someone else down for doing something they themselves can't. I mean c'mon, we've had city boys crying about Trev taking his kid outside and she might get stolen by a dingo, to guys wanting to kick him in the face for having her put her ear up against the muzzle when he's shooting to guys upset that he hasn't shielded her from life till she's 47 years old by telling her meat is made at grocery stores while they watch Bambi together........
 
KodiakHntr said:
So what I'm hearing you say, is that because in your experience you've never seen a moose collapse on a double lung shot, that should minimize the one's that my experience has shown that to happen?

Is that correct?

Because if so, maybe you aren't factoring bullet construction into your equation. From what my personal experience has shown is that less strongly constructed bullets will flat out drop animals on the spot at times. And for that matter, youtube is littered with videos showing identical results as what is shown on Trev's video.

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I see, you're the A-Max and Berger bullet, "Best of the West" type hunter. I've seen your kind around and trailed plenty of your wounded game. ;)

I have no dog in this fight. My opinion was that it was a foolish and lucky shot..............nothing more, nothing less.
 
2233 said:
I buy the distance(ish) but as the consensus seems, what was the need to take 1000 yard shot? Could he have gotten closer?
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What is the need to go hunting at all? Could you not go to the grocery store?

Since when has anything in our sport been about necessity. The only thing i see in this thread is more hunters chastising hunters for doing things that are legal. Seems to make the job for the anti's that much easier.
 
whats with the ''we are all hunters ,we shouldn't judge or police our own '' Seems rediculous, when one hunter posts video's online it effects us all, for better or worse. I am actually surprised how many hunters "shooters" are defending such actions. Again if you post video's online such as this one be prepared for the fall-out or praise I guess.
Maybe nothing in this sport in out of necessity, the 1 thing that should be is respect for the animals we hunt
 
bearkilr said:
I see, you're the A-Max and Berger bullet, "Best of the West" type hunter. I've seen your kind around and trailed plenty of your wounded game. ;)

I have no dog in this fight. My opinion was that it was a foolish and lucky shot..............nothing more, nothing less.
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Gotta be careful making assumptions about guys you don't know...... Makes a guy look like a fool sometimes. Just sayin'.

Was primarily a bowhunter for years, with some rifle work thrown in for kicks.
If you take a peek at my posts, it won't take long to see I'm a proponent of Barnes products. But I've been known to toss an amax or two occasionally.

Its too bad you are letting your judgement of what you think is acceptable based on YOUR skill set come into play here.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWAXQUCv8qo&feature=player_embedded

The gentleman has corrected the quoted distance of 1100 meters to 1100 yards.... an honest mistake on his part.

I believe that a forum like this one is to educate its members by exchanging experiences, views, opinions, etc, for the betterment of all.

It is for these reasons that I believe whenever someone posts something like this video, it should be supported with adequate details so that the average shooter/hunter can make his own assessment and arrive at a satisfactory conclusion.

BTW, the link above allows you to comment on the video and ask questions of the author.

From my point of view and being from a scientific background, a video like this is just a teaser and would not go far in the scientific world. Any trajectory analysis indicates major influencing factors, something that would be helpful if the author was to explain the details.

On top of that, it would also be nice to know if he was using hand-loads or factory ammo and the details, if hand-loads.

I want to emphasize that my comments are not meant to be negative but rather in the interest of more details so that the serious shooters on this forum can analyze them and hopefully learn from it.

Cheers from a want-to-be long range shooter,

Duke1
 
I guess to each his own. In my experience I was taught from a young age to stalk as close as I could,I find it hard to believe 1100yds is as close as this or any hunter could get. what's up with how the 2 moose just vanish in the vid next to the bull once he is on the ground
 
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