Moose?

blwebster said:
I agree here. Do not use any bullet that uses a wedge style tip as those are gimmicks that highlight poor low cost design. Get one designed for proper expansion. I have also observed irregular performance of Nosler's partition bullets in magnums but in the non-magnum category they too should be fine.
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Those plastic tips have little to do with the overall construction and performance of a bullet. They claim they are for reducing deformed tips and reducing drag but I personally think they are mostly cosmetic.

There are very good bullets out there that use plastic tips. Nosler Accubonds and Barnes TTSX come to mind, but there would be others.
 
Ganderite said:
The New Brunswick moose are quite small compared to moose in other provinces.
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That's not such a big thing sometimes. The cow I shot this year weighed in at 400# completely dressed. No head, guts, hide or legs. That was plenty big enough for a two way split on the meat and a lot easier to get out of the bog we found her in.

BTW .... I used the 375 again this year with 270gr TSX. Plenty gun and bullet, but there's no such thing as overkill and no gun that will overcome a bad shot.
 
Grouser said:
Kev -- Yep got one
20 point 1100 LBS (DNR chart - live weight estimate) 7MM-08 Nosler 140 grain out of my Kimber Classic.
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Very nice moose ...... Congrats. Army grounds?
 
My first moose was taken with a .243, simple blue box of Federal. He was quartering towards, and staring at me so I put the bullet in his throat and cracked his spinal cord. No follow up needed.

Since then, the only reason I have upgraded to magnums is; I love listening to a crack of thunder.
 
With no shots over 200 yards, any .270 caliber choice with decent ammunition works. Its all about range, when considering upgrading imho. If theres that chance of getting a wide open shot at 300 yards, then a 308 or 30/06 is the lightest caliber I would use. Anything past 300 yards is highly unlikely, but if the chance is there, then I would carry a 300 win mag or 7mm mag. I prefer to use a 300 win mag, just because its a flat shooter. With my rifle sighted in at 150 yards, then the crosshairs need to be placed on the vitals when shooting 250 yards & under, and the trajectory is only +/- a couple inches, so you don't need to aim high, or not much, if you do get lucky and spot a moose across a wide open grassland or swamp. If all I had was a 7mm-08, and could'nt afford to upgrade, or if the rifle had sentimental value, then I would use it. However, if I could afford to upgrade, then I would so I could feel at ease, if a long range moose was in the open, then I could go for it.
 
I'm sure it's old news but moose are not the toughest critters in the woods, in fact they are far from it. The only thing that makes moose tough is there size. Any bullet/arrow that is well placed and used with in its limits will result is a dead moose and I pile of work. I have watched more than a few moose die from various rifle calibre and even a few to broad heads to know what to expect. I have also witness two moose take a 9.3x64 bullet and a rage broad head for a long walk.

Grouser did you end up using the nosler BT or the partions? and I'm interested in how it worked and the internal damage that it did
 
From my reading of this thread I think there is once again direct correlation between small ##### size vs large chambering size. ;)

If you say the 7-08 won't kill a moose, you gotta ask, have you tried?
 


Super Cub.... Your right on with the 400 Ib. statement. I can't recall how many moose we took to the butchers over the years, and the quarters ready to butcher all weighed between 98 and 104 Ibs. There is alot of weight in guts, hide, legs and head. I would say from my experience the average Ontario moose weighs in the 900 to 1000 Ib. range when standing in the bush. So you loose about half the live weight to get down to butcherable meat.

Enjoy reading controverstial threads such as this. Best way to start an all evening arguement in a hunt camp is to ask "whats the best calibre to use", and then whats the best way to field dress the animal. A whole evenings entertainment.
 
Here is a formula I found for deer (from butcher website):
Live weight x 0.78 = field dressed weight
field dressed x 0.75 = hanging weight
hanging weight x 0.75 = edible meat




From research paper out of North Dakota:
Jensen, Bill. 2000. Estimating big game weights — a crash course for
the curious. North Dakota Outdoors 63(3):26-27. Jamestown, ND:
Northern Prairie Wildlife Research Center Online.
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/mammals/bgame/index.htm
(Version 11APR2001).
Over the past 40 years retired big game biologists Jim McKenzie and Jack Samuelson, as well as big game supervisor Roger Johnson and other North Dakota Game and Fish Department biologists, have collected weights and measurements on the six big game species found in North Dakota. By using the equations found in Table 1, and knowing the dressed weight — whole body or live weight minus internal organs — it is possible to derive a good estimate of an animal's live weight.
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Bighorn Sheep
......Ram (dressed weight x 1.13) + 31.9
Elk
......Cow (dressed weight x 1.07) + 110.4
......Bull (dressed weight x 1.30) + 24.4
Moose
......Cow (dressed weight x 1.33) + 61.0
......Bull (dressed weight x 1.27) + 78.2
Mule Deer
.......Doe (dressed weight x 1.28) + 3.6
.......Buck (dressed weight x 1.20) + 9.9
White-tailed Deer
.......Doe (dressed weight x 1.30) + 1.60
.......Buck (dressed weight x 1.15) + 11.7
Pronghorn
.......Doe (dressed weight x 0.95) + 38.7
.......Buck (dressed weight x 1.17) + 16.7
 
Eagleye said:
I have killed moose with one shot, using the following chamberings.:
6mm Remington, 257 Roberts, 6.5x55, 264 Win Mag, 7x57, 7mm Rem Mag, 308 Win, 303 Brit, 30-06, 300 mags of several flavors, [300WSM, 300H&H, 308 Norma Mag, 30-338, 300 Win Mag] 8x57, 338 Win Mag.


To say one is undergunned with a 7-08 and a decent bullet is utter nonsense!!

Regards, Eagleye.
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I'd have to call this reply here the "end of the thread", and from one of the best guys on the site no less.

FWIW I have a very good friend who regularly kills calves and adult Moose with his 12 twist .223 T3 and 55 grain soft points.

And don't give me the typical "ya well how many has he wounded" BS...because he plays for keeps and you can't eat a blood trail.
 
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