More BS about K98k in the EE

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I’m so sick of answering questions for guys who see bull #### in ads for 98k. I start one of these threads every so often.

There’s a mint Portugese contract for sale now the owner claims went to German forces. But is clearly mint and obviously came from the Portugal imports in the 90s.

I will state it again for anyone who is interested in learning.

Port M1941 contract was F, G, and H block. It was supposed to be
20K F blocks
20K G blocks
And
10k H blocks.
50k
What’s well known is that some were diverted to German use early on. Hence the H block went to 20k.
But the guns that the Germans kept in 1941 went into the meat grinder.... not minty storage as some would dream. They went to Russia, and Norway. They only show up as Russian captures or Norway reworks. The only other way to prove it is a depot mark on the gun. Which I’ve not yet seen. So to reiterate, if you have a port contract gun, and it’s original and nice, it came from Portugal. Full stop. Your dreams of grandeur won’t change that.

I’ve dealt with this specific topic about 10 times in 5 years. If of the gun has reasonable use, the Portuguese used these rifles. They got 50k, a fraction of those remained mint and were imported.
 
Here's a question on mine - it is not mint, it has been issued. It is an all matching barreled action in a stock that has a different serial number as well as the butt plate and I believe bayo lug. However, the barrel bands, spring and hand guard match the rifles serial number. Your thoughts on what it might have gone through?
 
granite said:
Here's a question on mine - it is not mint, it has been issued. It is an all matching barreled action in a stock that has a different serial number as well as the butt plate and I believe bayo lug. However, the barrel bands, spring and hand guard match the rifles serial number. Your thoughts on what it might have gone through?
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Impossible to say without detailed analysis. Is it a port contract? Feel
Free to email me detailed photos, including wrist and bottom of stock butt, all SN.
 
Good post buddy.

I will add that Portugal also used some, not ALL were kept in storage. So wear could come from Portuguese troops.
 
Very infomative. Ive seen them show up from time to time but its good to know that those minty rifle matched rifle were not on the european front.
 
I have one with a lower number than the OP's. In fact it is G13 and all zero's. It is in "very good" condition. The guy I bought it from said his "gunsmith" told him it was "mint". That said, I am glad to have it. Mine didn't see any action, though possibly issued.

Not intending any finger pointing here, but I see "rare" used quite often in EE ads. Indeed, most of these old milsurp rifles aren't laying in piles at gun shops or gun shows any more, and we don't get to see many, but most are not "rare" in the true sense of the word. Often, at gun shows, I get people telling me how rare such and such rifle (usually one they are hoping to sell to me) is, and "I've never seen another one".

CanadianAR puts it quite nicely. Thank you sir!:)
 
CanadianAR said:
There’s a mint Portugese contract for sale now the owner claims went to German forces. But is clearly mint and obviously came from the Portugal imports in the 90s.
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You clearly overlooked it could be Hitler's personal rifle. It would explain mint condition. So it's both German forces and Hitler's rifle. Win-win.
 
Im tired of it too, i spent 2 days researching a k98 sniper only to find out its some post war hodge podge of non original parts with fake waffenamts. Told the seller only to have him agree with my findings and not change the add or the price is shady.
 
I guess I need to consider that some who are trying to sell rifles are going by what they may have read in a magazine 25 years ago, or what some "expert" at a gun show may have told them. One guy at gun shows, and some of you know of whom I speak, comes up with some of the most outlandish crap. People who aren't in the loop will swallow the bs and faithfully pass it on.

Nowadays, with the internet at hand, research is much more readily accessible. Many older people don't capitalize on that advantage and get stung, or end up stinging someone else.
 
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