where did you get a pic of me?? delete it asap pleaseYou may not like it, but this is what peak Shooter physique looks like.
Mosin almost broke my collar bone
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Likely it. Slipperly steel butt plate and hunched over bench shooting, it can kick up. Limbsaver makes a shoulder pad that you can wear, that fits under T shirts, jackets etc. Makes shooting guns like that much better.
Problem with alot of benches. They're low, so forces you to hunch over. So you need a tall rest so you can shoulder it square. Makes a difference.
took two bumps on the shoulder to figure that out, still a bruised shoulder made for a not a fun experience
does anyone know if an AK front sight took will correct the front sight on the MN?
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Yeah few years ago I caught my M38 high on the shoulder, ain't no muscle up there, or pinches you.. The pad helped me after as my brain was like nope. Hard to train your brain out of it.
No, but you can make one from a 1inch C clamp.
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The worst positions for felt recoil are from a prone position, followed by shooting from a bench.
Your body is in a position where it can't move enough to "deflect" recoil, so it "absorbs" the shock.
Shooting with the back of your shoulder against a tree or some other solid object may be worse?
I will admit, I'm recoil sensitive. There are some rifles I just won't even consider shooting because of it.
Lots of good information for reducing felt recoil in the above posts.
Many of my rifles have steel butt plates and IMHO, they don't hurt any more to shoot than others with soft recoil absorbing pads.
If your body is to tense while shooting from any position, felt recoil will be an issue for most people.
I know a 5 foot tall lady, who is close to 65 years old, who shoots a 338 Win Mag, with factory loaded 225 grn ammo. She might weigh 100 pounds, in soaking wet clothes.
Watching her shoot that rifle is painful to watch.
In her words, she "rolls with the recoil" and it's very obvious watching her shoot from the bench, prone or standing.
It looks like she's being pushed, but it's just her body moving to deflect the recoil, rather than absorbing it.
I didn't notice anyone mention "stock fit"
Stock fit is very important when it comes to how your body will "absorb or deflect" recoil.
I find firearms with "to short" for me stocks, produce excessive recoil, and the same goes for stocks which are "too long"
Stock fitment is very important when it comes to recoil.
Some military rifles, such as the Lee Enfields can be had with butt stocks of different lengths. Most others are just "one size fits all"
I don't know of any Mosins, other than one offs, which have short, standard or long stocks.
OP, if the stock on your Mosin doesn't fit you, then as mentioned above you may need an extension, such as a slip-on pad. If it's too long, you're kind of out of luck, unless you are willing to destroy collector value by cutting and reforming the butt.
Your body is in a position where it can't move enough to "deflect" recoil, so it "absorbs" the shock.
Shooting with the back of your shoulder against a tree or some other solid object may be worse?
I will admit, I'm recoil sensitive. There are some rifles I just won't even consider shooting because of it.
Lots of good information for reducing felt recoil in the above posts.
Many of my rifles have steel butt plates and IMHO, they don't hurt any more to shoot than others with soft recoil absorbing pads.
If your body is to tense while shooting from any position, felt recoil will be an issue for most people.
I know a 5 foot tall lady, who is close to 65 years old, who shoots a 338 Win Mag, with factory loaded 225 grn ammo. She might weigh 100 pounds, in soaking wet clothes.
Watching her shoot that rifle is painful to watch.
In her words, she "rolls with the recoil" and it's very obvious watching her shoot from the bench, prone or standing.
It looks like she's being pushed, but it's just her body moving to deflect the recoil, rather than absorbing it.
I didn't notice anyone mention "stock fit"
Stock fit is very important when it comes to how your body will "absorb or deflect" recoil.
I find firearms with "to short" for me stocks, produce excessive recoil, and the same goes for stocks which are "too long"
Stock fitment is very important when it comes to recoil.
Some military rifles, such as the Lee Enfields can be had with butt stocks of different lengths. Most others are just "one size fits all"
I don't know of any Mosins, other than one offs, which have short, standard or long stocks.
OP, if the stock on your Mosin doesn't fit you, then as mentioned above you may need an extension, such as a slip-on pad. If it's too long, you're kind of out of luck, unless you are willing to destroy collector value by cutting and reforming the butt.
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I’ve always found a metal butt plate to be fine if you have it shouldered in the correct spot and pulled in tightly, if it’s off or not tight into the shoulder it will hurt to shoot for sure.
These work and fit well, they add an 1” to the length of pull which may or may not be a good thing depending on how the current fit of the stock is for you. They’re $35 on Amazon, they use the existing butt plate screws to mount to the stock.
These work and fit well, they add an 1” to the length of pull which may or may not be a good thing depending on how the current fit of the stock is for you. They’re $35 on Amazon, they use the existing butt plate screws to mount to the stock.
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- Nova Scotia
Good job. Pad should help.
If the butt was against your collar bone, then it will hurt you. You figured it out, added some height to the rest so you aren't crouched down, and that makes a difference at the bench.
I have a couple slip on recoil pads i use for shooting heavy recoiling rifles at the bench.
I have a couple slip on recoil pads i use for shooting heavy recoiling rifles at the bench.
Many folks who take their rifles to the range don't have proper "range bags"
They hope "someone" has left bags filled with sand, beans, etc for them to use as rests, or they ball up their jackets to rest the rifles on.
Some of the contortions they put their bodies through while trying to hold their rifles steady, look very uncomfortable and make felt recoil worse.
I've seen folks, especially new women shooters, who don't have mentors, beat themselves up with their rifles year after year. They don't want to spend money on bags or rests, etc., so they just try to utilize whatever is left at the range, such as bits of boards, wood blocks, old pillows, etc.
Some of them are almost laying in a prone position on the bench while trying to hold their rifles steady.
Even folks that do have range bags, often don't have bags or rests that are high enough, or a "butt bag/bunny ear bag" so they have to hunch over like a bear making out with a football to see their sights.
That's how they end up holding the butts on their collar bones.
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Years ago - say late 1980's - was an article with pictures in Guns and Ammo magazine - old guy Elmer Keith was bench resting a 458 Win Mag - I am sure he had circa 18" (45 cm) height of front bag and appropriate rear bag - was his whole point of that article - to be able to aim and fire with your back erect - more or less at right angles to the bore - to let your upper body flex with the "buck" - and that one was going to buck - up to you whether you try to hold against that or to go with it. I am quite sure that same article mentioned "stand up" bench rests - common enough in hunting camps in Africa or at some shooting ranges in Texas - idea was that the shooter had a place to rest the rifle - then could take a step back, if needed, when recoil occurred. Versus as I have seen - shooter hunched/laid way forward - almost over top instead of behind the rifle - as if taking recoil on top of shoulder - is no "give" in that person's back posture - going to have to absorb the full force.
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Yeah that stuff hits.
To me lighter shooters tend to do better with hard kickers if they have good technique. Less mass for the shooter tends to move your upper body with the recoil instead of a 275 lb man being more resistant to movement and consequently getting pummeled. My 2 cents
