Mosin looks abit differnt then my other soviet one, 1942.

[CanadianBaconPancakes]

The metal bezel in my new mosin has the sytle with 2 screws in each, Not the clamp in ones. Anyone know why? I was under the impersion it was a soviet mosin but now im not sure.

 

[Jc0228]

You start a lot of threads.

 

[Horilka]

Poor chinese imitation?

 

[SA85M1]

Pre war stocks were made in this fashon....war production stocks were simplified to ease manufacture

 

[Cb750k]

You start a lot of threads.

Hahaha

 

[bp2626]

Use this site:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinFeatures06.htm

 

[EL34/6L6]

Yes, prewar stock. Google is your friend.

 

[relic38]

^^^ Cool site. Interestingly, my numbers-matching 1928 M91/30 has the late/post-WWII sling slots.

 

[bp2626]

^^^ Cool site. Interestingly, my numbers-matching 1928 M91/30 has the late/post-WWII sling slots.

99% of all Mosin-Nagants in Canada were refurbished, numbers matching or not. During refurbishment they just put whatever stock on it that was at the top of the bin of stocks.

 

[Mark-II]

Can you make out anything of the stock cartouche?

I've one that can barely be read as 1935, with a Tula star

 

[EL34/6L6]

99% of all Mosin-Nagants in Canada were refurbished, numbers matching or not. During refurbishment they just put whatever stock on it that was at the top of the bin of stocks.

Something that also can trick us is parts like buttplates and floorplates could have been replaced and new ones pulled from parts bins at refurb and stamped with the matching number. Thus giving the illusion of still having the rifles original numbers matching parts intact.

 

[ljones]

Some of the wartime stocks didn't have any metal sling escutcheons, they just made holes for the sling and that was it like this one here:

 

[bp2626]

Something that also can trick us is parts like buttplates and floorplates could have been replaced and new ones pulled from parts bins at refurb and stamped with the matching number. Thus giving the illusion of still having the rifles original numbers matching parts intact.

Yes, this is true.

Sometimes they actually ground the old serial off of every single part and then stamped it with the number from the top of the barrel. A good way to determine if every number was stamped again is to check if the barrel has a cyrillic prefix, say AA, and if the other numbers don't include that prefix it's a sure thing.

And as far as "all matching goes" we don't require the receiver/tang to be matching anyhow and I doubt most people even know that the the year / arsenal is stamped down there.

 

[relic38]

Good info, could easily swap a buttplate to keep the numbers matching too. Thanks for the info!

 

[EL34/6L6]

Yes, this is true.

Sometimes they actually ground the old serial off of every single part and then stamped it with the number from the top of the barrel. A good way to determine if every number was stamped again is to check if the barrel has a cyrillic prefix, say AA, and if the other numbers don't include that prefix it's a sure thing.

And as far as "all matching goes" we don't require the receiver/tang to be matching anyhow and I doubt most people even know that the the year / arsenal is stamped down there.

Yeah except evidence of grinding is usually apparent. One of my number matching Mosins has the bolt's number clearly ground off and re stamped with the corresponding barrel shank number.

 

[relic38]

Pretty sure my bolt is force matched to the barrel. There's a mark on the top of it that I looked up and it is apparently from the Tula factory, but the barrel is definitely Ishevsk.
Even if it's a Franken-gun, it seems to shoot quite well.